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rusty577
22-02-2012, 10:38 PM
Hi guys

Just thought Id post up some pictures of my XJ and what Ive been doing the last few days.

Installed Ruff Country's 3" lift Kit and a Spartan Auto locker in the front dana30 diff.

Before shot.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep1.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep2.jpg

Axles out

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep3.jpg

The mail man shows up :eek:

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep4.jpg

Ruff Country's LCA's look heaps stronger than the standard arms and are slightly longer to correct caster.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep5.jpg

3" Springs

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep6.jpg

Carrier & Spider gears out ready for the locker

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep7.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep8.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep9.jpg

Locker installed into carrier

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep10.jpg

Springs & LCA's installed

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep11.jpg

Carrier, new Axle seals & painted diff cover installed

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep12.jpg

Front done & on the ground

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep13.jpg

Onto the rear Leaf packs. I also removed the rear sway bar.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep14.jpg

All done.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep15.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep16.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep17.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep18.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep19.jpg

First drive and only problem was the steering wheel not straight. I have no death woobles or vibes :)

Measurements from center of wheel to guard was 17" Front & Rear Now its sitting at 20" Front & Rear

Would like too thank Wooders garage for the locker and Hammerhead4x4 for the lift kit.

Cant wait for the weekend to get out and give it a good workout with the sway bar disconnected at some local tracks.

Moving onto sliders now for a little sill protection.

junglejuice
23-02-2012, 07:13 AM
Did you do the bumpstops while you were at it? You are more likely to hit the tranny lines when you lift the front (providing the springs allow flex) then when stock.

How is the ride?

I also notice that you have a panhard relocation bracket fitted so be really careful allowing the passenger wheel to droop as the ball joint on the end of the panhard will run out of travel very quickly allowing damage to occur....

Looks good tho...

Southcross83
23-02-2012, 07:25 AM
Hey mate, Just wondering was there any issues with hammerhead? I'm looking at purchasing a 4.5" inch lift from them of ebay. The lift looks good buddy.

rusty577
23-02-2012, 07:33 AM
Did you do the bumpstops while you were at it? You are more likely to hit the tranny lines when you lift the front (providing the springs allow flex) then when stock.

How is the ride?

I also notice that you have a panhard relocation bracket fitted so be really careful allowing the passenger wheel to droop as the ball joint on the end of the panhard will run out of travel very quickly allowing damage to occur....

Looks good tho...


Thanks JJ

I removed the one standard front bump stop that was left. Im going in today to find a cheap rubber mellet I can cut in two and silcone them onto the coil base plates. Will standard size bump stops be fine for the front? I still plan to run the 253s for a while. Also the standard rear bump stop are in good condition.

I will check where it bottoms out first. The bracket came with the kit and seems to be doing a good job at bringing the diff into line. Is it better to redrill a hole like gojeep?

james
23-02-2012, 07:36 AM
Get crutch rubbers from Clark Rubber to replace the original bumpstups.

Green Jeep Mobile

rusty577
23-02-2012, 07:39 AM
Hey mate, Just wondering was there any issues with hammerhead? I'm looking at purchasing a 4.5" inch lift from them of ebay. The lift looks good buddy.

He was very helpful and replied to all my msgs very quickly. He also did me the best postage price. He didnt have the kit in stock so took 3days for him to get it in and ship it off to me. Postage then took a week via fedex internation acconomy.

Make sure you get a shipping quote as the auto prices that come up on ebay are wrong

rusty577
23-02-2012, 07:41 AM
Get crutch rubbers from Clark Rubber to replace the original bumpstups.

Green Jeep Mobile


Crutch rubber? Never heard of it ill check it out thanks

junglejuice
23-02-2012, 07:42 AM
Get crutch rubbers from Clark Rubber to replace the original bumpstups.

Green Jeep Mobile

What are crutch rubbers? Do you have a pic of this set up?

rusty577
23-02-2012, 07:43 AM
The spartan locker & seals were from dave at wooders. I had it the day after i payed. Couldnt be more happy with that

junglejuice
23-02-2012, 07:55 AM
Thanks JJ

I removed the one standard front bump stop that was left. Im going in today to find a cheap rubber mellet I can cut in two and silcone them onto the coil base plates. Will standard size bump stops be fine for the front? I still plan to run the 253s for a while. Also the standard rear bump stop are in good condition.

I will check where it bottoms out first. The bracket came with the kit and seems to be doing a good job at bringing the diff into line. Is it better to redrill a hole like gojeep?

You need to make sure that the shocks (if longer than stock) don't bottom out before the bump stops do so you need to make sure that it is all set properly.

As for the panhard you need to make sure that you downtravel is limited BEFORE the panhard's balljoint runs out of travel otherwise it will destroy it's self. Now you are running aftermarket arms the down travel is increases significantly with no mechanical limit being offered by the arms like it is when stock so now you only mechanical limit will be which ever of the following run out of travel first, brake lines, shocks or panhard.....

My advice if you wanna do it properly is to disconnect the panhard and jack up the body with the wheels removed and allow full droop and make sure everything is ok before you go flexing too much, if it is your shocks that are the mechanical down limit then remove the springs and just leave the shocks fitted and then jack up the drivers side till it runs out of travel whilst keeping a close eye on the upper control arm position, when it starts getting close to tranny lines have a look at the length of bumpstop required to prevent contact with some room for just in case and then you will know what length bumpstops you need.
Also while it is at full droop check to see if the panhard will line up with the mounting hole or not, it will become very obvious very quickly if it is going to be a problem or not....

rusty577
23-02-2012, 08:35 AM
Thanks JJ going to put her up on stands and check everything you said... Will get back to you with the results.

Also the ride is excellent, on road it feels alot better then the standard gear.

The locker is invisible in 2wd, I can hear faint clicking going around corners with the stereo off and window down. Only thing it does is on a fast full lock turn it clunks a little, Im guessing unlocking under load, but apparently will get better as it "brakes in" its already stopped doing as much after 50km. Quick test in my driveway in 4low and it locks up nicely.

rusty577
23-02-2012, 01:38 PM
Put her up on stands and with the the sway bar connected it limits the drop, but with it disconnected my brake line on the the drivers side gets tight at full drop and looks like the panhard rod limits the passenger side before the brake line on the side gets tight.

I pulled the springs and found the limit before it hit the lines and bump stopped to suit that.

Looks like I wont be disconnecting until I sort out what to do with the panhard rod. I think with the brakes Ill be able to make a drop bracket and straighten out the hard line thats there. That might give me enough room to get full drop.

Donno what to do about the panhard rod. Do aftermarket ones come with a more flexiable joint or something?

Id like to take advantage of all the extra drop from the LCA's

Some Pic's from when I was done, Sway bar still connected

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep20.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep21.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep22.jpg

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http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep28.jpg

Dudzy
23-02-2012, 02:33 PM
Awesome build mate

junglejuice
23-02-2012, 02:38 PM
Wooders sell a bracket that will work well with your relocation bracket but you will need an adjustable panhard rod to make use of it, basically you set the ball joint to vertical instead of horizontal so therefor offering far more travel from the panhard and using the relocation bracket that you already have will stop the diff bottoming out on the panhard like mine does....

Looks like you are getting there, was that glasshouse in he last pics? Looking quite muddy, you will need some MT/R's next.....

rusty577
23-02-2012, 02:48 PM
Awesome build mate

Thanks mate :)

rusty577
23-02-2012, 02:56 PM
Wooders sell a bracket that will work well with your relocation bracket but you will need an adjustable panhard rod to make use of it, basically you set the ball joint to vertical instead of horizontal so therefor offering far more travel from the panhard and using the relocation bracket that you already have will stop the diff bottoming out on the panhard like mine does....

Looks like you are getting there, was that glasshouse in he last pics? Looking quite muddy, you will need some MT/R's next.....

Ok so the bracket wooders sells relocates the panhard ball joint vertically so it can move down on itself, and I cant use that with my standard panhard rod because it offsets it from the standard position? I might send Wooders a msg and see what he says.

Im guessing your running one of these brackets to have your panhard rod bottoming on your diff? and what did you do to your front brake lines?

Its pissing down with rain today, thats the powerline track up the road from me in Doonan on the Sunshine coast. It gets me into Noosa the fun way ;) I wouldnt attempt doing it today with so much rain. The first bit can be dangerous.

Got my eye out for a second hand set of 31" muddies for a good price, otherwise ill wait till I have the cash for newies

junglejuice
23-02-2012, 06:42 PM
Nah I don't have the Wooders bracket, maybe one day but I would need the relocation bracket like you have to get the best use out of it...

Can't help you with tyres though, by the way is light grey arm rests ok, I have a set of 4 in good cond if you're interested, I have the door bracket as well that you were chasing assuming it is the one on the pillar...

rusty577
24-02-2012, 08:47 AM
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album922/IMG_3128.sized.jpg

Thats the bracket your talking about. Looks good but cant afford $150 on top of a new panhard rod right now. So today I plan on relocating the brake lines to get some more out of them. Take it for a wheel on the weekend and disconnect and see what happens. I know it will flog out the panhard ball joint eventually. Ill either just replace it (cheap) or upgrade to the wooders gear and get some more droop along with it.

I need a arm rest for both rear doors or are you only selling them as a hole set of four?. Are they the same as this?

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep29.jpg

And Id like both front door strap brackets they are the ones that are on the frame that the strap and pin go through.

Pm me a price posted to 4562

junglejuice
25-02-2012, 11:43 AM
Yes the ones I have are the same, I can do them as a pair or all four, up to you...

Negdriver
25-02-2012, 01:16 PM
Looking good rusty!

How on earth do you find the time to do all that? lol

Seriously cannot wait to take mine off the road and do her up.
So far getting my electricals out of the way.

rusty577
25-02-2012, 02:23 PM
Thanks mate. I have some time off work so I thought id spend some time and money on the jeep ive been meaning to do it for ages.

rusty577
25-02-2012, 02:24 PM
Yes the ones I have are the same, I can do them as a pair or all four, up to you...


Thats great. Only need the rear, keep postage down.

rusty577
26-02-2012, 10:12 PM
Went out today at some local tracks with a few mates.

Disconnected the front and wow. Very happy with how it flex's and performs. Only thing I couldn't creep over where washed out, soft sticky clay hills where my A/T's just filled full of mud and turned to slicks so had to hit it with pace.

I needs some 30" or 31" muddies, Id be unstoppable then.

A mate in his KJ did a little rear bummer damage lol slid back into the bank.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep30.jpg

Stopped for a cold one.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep31.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep32.jpg

Mate of mine in a new patrol cockin his leg lol

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep33.jpg

Mate in his standard Pajero didn't have much fun, lifting wheels everywhere

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep34.jpg

The convoy

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep35.jpg

Got a few vids too, nothing special my misses too most of them. I will get better vids next time Im out.
Sorry in advance too for my misses and hear directing skills lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IuAzfUJ10s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFiwYZkgRAU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bGQN8ZNP8I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWBpUCIllIk

mato
27-02-2012, 04:51 PM
nice work mate with the lift
that's some nice wheeling :smile:

and how hard is the locker to install ????? and with your lift are you happy or would you like more ???? i am still undecided on mine :confused:

rusty577
27-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Thanks mato

Im very happy with my lift and how it flexes. Dont think Id need any more, maybe a 1' spacer and shackles down the track if I went with 33" and after market guards. But honestly I think all I really need is some 31" muddies and cut/after market guards so i wouldn't need extended bump stops and Id be happy. I didn't really hit the diff all day on my 235s ATs I just made sure I thought about my wheel placement. Had heaps of fun crawling around, not so much on the clay hills where my tyres let me down.

I also have to find a better way to hold the sway bar up when disconnected. The zip ties I was using kept snapping.

As for the locker its a fairly straight forward job. Front on stands, axles out and pull the carrier. Then its only a 10 minute job stripping it, cleaning then reassembling with the locker parts. Made a huge difference off road.

Southcross83
27-02-2012, 10:52 PM
Hey rusty, if ur payin $150 for that bracket ur gettin ripped i just got one for $30 plus $40 postage from hammerhead 4x4 half the price check it out mate. I cant work out how all these companys are putting 100'/, mark up on all these products fair enough we are all out to make a quid but seriously. it does pay to shop around.

Dudzy
28-02-2012, 01:18 AM
nice pics and videos! puttin the xj to good use

Oli-dogg
28-02-2012, 05:25 AM
Get crutch rubbers from Clark Rubber to replace the original bumpstups.

What are crutch rubbers? Do you have a pic of this set up?

I'd like to see a picture of this setup too.

Steve F
28-02-2012, 07:19 AM
Hey rusty, if ur payin $150 for that bracket ur gettin ripped i just got one for $30 plus $40 postage from hammerhead 4x4 half the price check it out mate. I cant work out how all these companys are putting 100'/, mark up on all these products fair enough we are all out to make a quid but seriously. it does pay to shop around.

Wooders gets these brackets manufactured to his design/spec so you can forget about the markup etc. They are made in Australia and that's just the cost of gettin them manufactured with some profit for Dave.

I've no idea how you got one for $30, I build a lot of stuff like my bullbar and sliders etc and buying the steel in this thickness and then getting it bent would cost more than $30 here!! In fact there's no way I could make one for $30.

Cheers
Steve

rusty577
28-02-2012, 07:43 AM
Thanks Dudzy

Hey rusty, if ur payin $150 for that bracket ur gettin ripped i just got one for $30 plus $40 postage from hammerhead 4x4 half the price check it out mate. I cant work out how all these companys are putting 100'/, mark up on all these products fair enough we are all out to make a quid but seriously. it does pay to shop around.

You sure its like the bracket in the picture I posted of wooders one.

I think your thinking of the bracket they supply with the kit to move the panhard rod diff end down and across to line up the diff. Not the wooders bracket that move the top ball joint to a vertical position so it wont bind up when the passenger wheel is at full droop.

I run one of these at the moment to bring my diff back into line. It works well but It binds the top ball joint sooner because of the drop, it also changes the angle relationship with the drag link.

Ill be upgrading to wooders adjustable panhard rod and ball joint relocation bracket when I can afford it. I might need longer brake lines then with the extra droop without the panhard rod binding.

Wooders
28-02-2012, 08:00 AM
Hey rusty, if ur payin $150 for that bracket ur gettin ripped i just got one for $30 plus $40 postage from hammerhead 4x4 half the price check it out mate. I cant work out how all these companys are putting 100'/, mark up on all these products fair enough we are all out to make a quid but seriously. it does pay to shop around.

Sorry mate, but SteveF is right on the money.
Our brackets are made in Australia in small volumes, not mass produced in china/india.
Also there is a bit of steel in there and asside from the cutting, welding & painting time, the tapered TRE insert is seperately machined before before being welded into place.
I wish I made 100% profit, but I can assure you there is nowhere near that amount of markup in the unit.
Also I'd like to add that our unit is covered by our liability insurance (which is bloody expensive) should something fail. Keep in mind if YOU import something and it fails, YOU are deemed to be the manufacturer cause you imported it - it YOU carry the liability (and I have seen other brackets fail)....just something to keep in mind ...

Southcross83
28-02-2012, 08:13 AM
I would like to apologise gents, it is a different dedign silly me i have made a fool of myself. please continue this is a massive learning curve for me apologies again.

Toff
28-02-2012, 08:38 AM
Southcross, Wooders bracket keeps the correct geometery between the draglink and the panhard.
This one does not.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIGHT-HAND-DRIVE-Jeep-Cherokee-XJ-Front-Panhard-Bracket-1984-2001-/250920310336?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a6c041640
You get what you pay for.

Southcross83
28-02-2012, 01:14 PM
Yeah that the one i was thinking of and once again i apologise if i have offended anyone especially wooders.

Wooders
28-02-2012, 01:24 PM
Yeah that the one i was thinking of and once again i apologise if i have offended anyone especially wooders.

LOL - ME ...Offended??? LOL I have a think head/skin ;)

rusty577
02-03-2012, 09:13 PM
Quick question. Want to fit some 31" will 31x10.5x15 fit on the standard alloys I have and work well?

If not what offset rims do I need to run them?

BennyWA
03-03-2012, 12:01 AM
Quick question. Want to fit some 31" will 31x10.5x15 fit on the standard alloys I have and work well?

If not what offset rims do I need to run them?

Yes will fit and work no worries at all.

rusty577
05-03-2012, 08:34 PM
So I wont have any issues with them rubbing on the back of the wheel arches well flexed?

BennyWA
05-03-2012, 08:55 PM
Nope, no problems at all!

rusty577
05-03-2012, 10:50 PM
Just to be sure these are the rims

http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/images_all/ALY01513U.jpg

Just cant find any pictures online with 31" fitted to these

junglejuice
06-03-2012, 12:16 AM
31's on those rims will rub like crazy up front if you don't bump stop it, there are some pics of Xj's with those rims with 31's in the pics section....

rusty577
06-03-2012, 06:45 AM
Ok so the will rub. Whats the best offset rim for 31x10.5 on a xj?

rusty577
07-03-2012, 03:19 PM
31's on those rims will rub like crazy up front if you don't bump stop it, there are some pics of Xj's with those rims with 31's in the pics section....

Where will they rub exactly? I dont mind & expect to doing a little trimming on the front so I do lose up travel.

Im looking at putting 31x10.5r15 Maxxis 762 Bighorns on them. Best price so fare is $235 a tyre.

Cant find any pictures of 31" on limited rims. I see alot of pictures of 31x10.5 even 32x11.5 on standard sport rims.

BennyWA
07-03-2012, 03:30 PM
Are those rims a different offset to the sport rims?

rusty577
07-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Have no idea.... I would think so????

If they are different I might be better hunting up some standard sport rims?

BennyWA
07-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Well mine had sport rims and they didn't rub. All I had to do is adjust out the steering bumpstops slightly. If you're going to be doing major flexing etc you may have to adjust and add to the suspension bumpstops as Marcus writes here:
http://jeep-xj.info/HowtoBumpstops.htm

rusty577
11-03-2012, 10:37 PM
Got the Jeep booked in for 31" next week :)

But got a bit of a problem. Went for a wheel today with a mate and we where exploring some new tracks.

Anyway long story short, Ive put a nice big ding in the rear left shock after rolling back into a big rock.

The shock seems to work fine (I think) but it doesn't look very good. Its almost crushed right in down near the bottom where it bolts to the diff, but I cant see any punchers in it or leaking any fluid.

I'll take a photo in the morning and see what you guys think. Ive contacted hammerhead4x4 on the cost of replacement rear shocks. Hope its not to expensive.

Don't want to have to put of the new rubber.

rusty577
12-03-2012, 10:56 AM
Picture of my damage new shock :( waiting on a price from hammerhead4x4 on rear replacements. It still seems to work fine.


http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep36.jpg

mato
12-03-2012, 09:45 PM
its still good
its still good
just a little dirty
:cry::cry::cry:

rusty577
13-03-2012, 06:18 PM
Rear shock set is $79.00 and $112 postage. Bit of a expensive accident. Will order them when I can.

31" bighorns getting fitted tomorrow morning.

ChrisXJ
13-03-2012, 09:03 PM
Damm, That's gotta hurt.
More money required for the Jeep once again

rusty577
13-03-2012, 10:28 PM
Yep it hurts, but shit happens. I'm thinking of making up some sort of guard or something.

31" getting fitted tomorrow. I should be fine to drive home with them without trimming? Ive got about a 10km drive home before the trimming begins :)

cherokee94nz
13-03-2012, 11:01 PM
Take it out and make it flex before doing anything.

ChrisXJ
14-03-2012, 07:15 AM
I used to have 31's with a 3" lift and my rims were 3 5/8 backspace. Had to remove the front mud flaps as they were to close when turning the wheels and add some bump stops.
Other than that it was all OK.

james
14-03-2012, 07:32 AM
The rare flares will touch tyre

rusty577
14-03-2012, 10:51 AM
Just had the 31x10.5r15 fitted to my standard alloy rims from JAXQuick fit.

The guys thought they would hit the guards when lowered back to the ground and said I wouldn't be able to drive home without cutting guards.

Anyway told them too have some faith and bolt them up lol.

They just clear everything and only rubs the alittle on the sway bar right at full lock.

With the sway bar removed and full flex, might be a different story.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep37.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep38.jpg

Im going to set up something I can drive up with the sway bar disconnected and trim/bump stop to suit.

Dudzy
14-03-2012, 01:08 PM
Looks good rusty, the new tread will make a world of difference offroad.

Windex
14-03-2012, 02:46 PM
Looks good rusty, the new tread will make a world of difference offroad.

Damn right I reckon that tyre type(not size) is the biggest game changer in terms of capability for off road.

rusty577
14-03-2012, 07:34 PM
Thanks guys, Cant wait to try it out off road.

Got a Jeep Club day trip up to Rainbow beach and back on the weekend. Not much to really test out the suspension/tyres. I plan to run them at around 25psi on the sand and go lower if its real soft. They tyre shop guy said they should still hold a bead at 7psi because its on a 15x7 rim. Donno if Id ever need to go that low.

XJweaver
14-03-2012, 07:49 PM
I've run the same tyre (albeit smaller size) on the sand while towing a camper trailer and they perform very well.
You shouldnt need to go below 10 Psi at the most.

Have fun - Post some pics.

Cheers,
Paul.

BennyWA
14-03-2012, 07:58 PM
Have you adjusted out the steering stops to stop the tyres hitting the swaybar?

rusty577
14-03-2012, 08:04 PM
Yep will get heaps of pics/vid. I plan will adjust the stop tomorrow while sorting out any timing and bump stops on a flex ramp. Id rather trim then bumpstop ;)

darksidecustoms
14-03-2012, 08:59 PM
Nice. Looking well balanced now!

mato
14-03-2012, 09:22 PM
:pwell lets see the new tyres:p

Easy Rollins 1
14-03-2012, 09:28 PM
High tide this weekend in the early morning,should get better after 9am-10am.

I don't drop tyre pressures on the beach unless I really need to.If leaving from the Noosa end,just drop down onto the beach with road pressures(bit of speed).It's a fair way up to the cutting,I run all the way (on hard sand) with road pressure and 2WD.Even there it's got timber corderoy'd on the track.

rusty577
14-03-2012, 09:47 PM
:pwell lets see the new tyres:p

Look up ^^ There are two pictures more to come.

rusty577
14-03-2012, 09:56 PM
High tide this weekend in the early morning,should get better after 9am-10am.

I don't drop tyre pressures on the beach unless I really need to.If leaving from the Noosa end,just drop down onto the beach with road pressures(bit of speed).It's a fair way up to the cutting,I run all the way (on hard sand) with road pressure and 2WD.Even there it's got timber corderoy'd on the track.

Yep I know the tide, Ive been up there a million times when standard. Id usually run 30psi from 40psi in my Bridgestone A/Ts and could go up and down the cut ins no worries spending most of the time in 2WD. When I did trips at high tide Id drop them down to 15-20psi and it had no problem dealing with the powder sand.

The Sunshine coast Jeep clubs trips on Sunday. I'm gunna try too get some mates together and go out to Ringtail or possibly the state forest behind Cooroy/Pomona on Saturday. After all this rain should make it a interesting drive. Lots of Mud, washouts and ruts :cool:

rusty577
16-03-2012, 12:05 PM
Got a chance to take her up the road to my flex rocks so I could see where will need trimming and how much more bump stop Ill need with sway bar disconnected

It doesn't rub the top of the wheel arch at full flex and was sitting on my bump stops I made so they seem good. I'm going to have to trim the front inner plastic fender just a little and it will tuck and turn better.

Im going to extend the rear bump stop as they are doing nothing at the moment and the leaf pack with AAL seems to be limiting the up travel before the shock or bump stop.

Some pictures.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep39.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep40.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep41.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep42.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep43.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep44.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep45.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep45.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep47.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep48.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep49.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep50.jpg

Siggers
16-03-2012, 01:38 PM
http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep45.jpg



What a shot for MAXXIS!

Looks good :) this is very similar to what I plan on doing to mine, hopefully... Got to get the boss' permission first...

junglejuice
16-03-2012, 04:56 PM
http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep48.jpg




The driver looks like he is having fun

ChrisXJ
16-03-2012, 06:34 PM
Certainly close to the flares when flexed.
Looks good though.

rusty577
16-03-2012, 09:18 PM
Very close but just fits ;)

Yeh JJ old rusty the dog loves going wheeling

mato
17-03-2012, 08:32 PM
very nice
this is how jeep should have come from the factory

kyro
18-03-2012, 08:32 AM
looking good mate, i miss my XJ

rusty577
18-03-2012, 09:48 PM
Thanks guys

Unfortunately the weather here has been shit and the Sunshine Coast Jeep Club's day trip up the beach was canceled.

Couldn't let the day go to waste so me and two mates headed bush out the back of Cooroy and followed it right through to Ringtail RD. Was extremely washed out to say the least. Next mod is a snorkel lol

I still cant get over what a difference the 31" muddies made. Had unreal traction all day. Very impressed with the Maxxis Bighorns.

Few pics and will upload some video tomorrow morning.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep51.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep52.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep53.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK50rgfSCws

Dudzy
18-03-2012, 10:31 PM
Haha nice water crossing :P can't tell you the amount of tense moments I've had doing that in mine.

rusty577
18-03-2012, 10:49 PM
Haha nice water crossing :P can't tell you the amount of tense moments I've had doing that in mine.

That was one of many lol I opened my air box up afterwards and not one drop in it :confused:

I Even found my number plate. For those of you that noticed it gone after the crossing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOakojtV-Zs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jt9ibY7iEA

Few more vids in the morning

BennyWA
18-03-2012, 10:49 PM
Did you get the numberplate out?:toilet:

BennyWA
18-03-2012, 10:50 PM
Lol, so you did!

cherokee94nz
18-03-2012, 11:36 PM
Next mod the snorkel

rusty577
19-03-2012, 08:49 AM
Snorkels is defiantly on the cards. Also ripped off a abs wire from the rear right wheel. Will get under there today and fix it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iwJJbsKvJw

Siggers
19-03-2012, 09:28 AM
How does the XJ compare to the other guys you went with, much much better?? or about the same? Im not going to say worse, cause we all know that can't happen...

rusty577
19-03-2012, 10:08 AM
How does the XJ compare to the other guys you went with, much much better?? or about the same? Im not going to say worse, cause we all know that can't happen...

The mate in the Pajero was on 33x11.5r16 Cooper STT with 3" suspension lift and 2" body lift, open front and standard LSD rear. The KJ is at about 4" lift with aftermarket front A arms on 31x10.5r15 Silverstone Sports MTZ, open front and standard lsd in the rear.

I went everywhere they went and felt I did it slower with less stress to the car. I guess thats just because I was the only one with a front locker. The XJ just crawls up muddy rutted out hills where the others have to hit it with a bit more pace.

Also my approach and departure angle is a bit better. They seem to be dragging bumpers alot.

The Bighorns work very well. They will clean at fairly low rpm and just keeps pulling you though anything. Also no rubbing at all disconnected.

I tore the left rear abs wire going through this creek. Unlucky :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYFv6AvLpE

Siggers
19-03-2012, 10:47 AM
Nice one, so you think its the front lokker helping it out that much more, do you think the XJ gets more flex and maneuverability over the pajero?

rusty577
19-03-2012, 12:03 PM
Nice one, so you think its the front lokker helping it out that much more, do you think the XJ gets more flex and maneuverability over the pajero?

Locker helps alot. The xj flex's in the front alot more than the pajero maybe the same in the rear.

Siggers
19-03-2012, 12:16 PM
I have read that some longer shackles help the rear flex allot better, as the stock ones don't allow them to flatten out as much as there shorter... as they flatten out the become longer, but I am not sure with AAL's, it may not help at all...

Windex
19-03-2012, 12:18 PM
Having owned a NL Pajero before I bought my XJ I can say that the front will definitely out flex the Pajero, the rear would be close if the rear sway bar is disconnected/removed. With a small lift and some decent tyres Pajero's are very capable, like the Jeep they have an excellent approach angle(departure is another story).

rusty577
19-03-2012, 01:47 PM
Having owned a NL Pajero before I bought my XJ I can say that the front will definitely out flex the Pajero, the rear would be close if the rear sway bar is disconnected/removed. With a small lift and some decent tyres Pajero's are very capable, like the Jeep they have an excellent approach angle(departure is another story).

Yeh dont get me wrong. The Pajero was very capable went everywhere he pointed it.

WhiteWolf
21-03-2012, 12:05 AM
hey there! i am pickin up my jeep soon, wanting to throw a lift in pretty quick. is this the same as the one you got? How much was shipping to here?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250881175030&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_1631wt_1159

rusty577
21-03-2012, 06:13 AM
hey there! i am pickin up my jeep soon, wanting to throw a lift in pretty quick. is this the same as the one you got? How much was shipping to here?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250881175030&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_1631wt_1159


Yeh that was the kit but I also bought a u bolt kit and rhd pan hard bracket

Postage was around $250. Tolal price was under $1000 so you dont pay any import tax either.

darksidecustoms
21-03-2012, 08:30 AM
How are you finding the RC shocks, Rusty?

rusty577
21-03-2012, 01:30 PM
Im very impressed with the RC shocks. They are they new N2.0 Version upgraded from RC's old N2.2 shocks that had very bad reviews.

On road the suspension and handling feels better then the old standard gear and off road they seem to do a awesome job at soaking up the bumps. They will also flex right out when going slow.

rusty577
26-03-2012, 11:39 PM
vid of the kj doing the same crossing I lost my number plate in

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tmB3a1hxoRU

rusty577
30-03-2012, 01:59 PM
Just got AVS editor. Playing around with the last vids. I think the slow motion effect looks good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDuG5cwjVlI

rusty577
09-04-2012, 06:21 PM
Got a few picture's of a trip to Inskip, Rainbow beach the other week.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep55.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep56.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep57.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep58.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep59.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep60.jpg

Also the vids of a trip to Gheerulla, QLD on Easter weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtoA9VC6r2Y

Let me know what you think of the vid.

Dudzy
09-04-2012, 09:47 PM
Cool vid mate, its nice at Rainbow aye
your lucky, last time I had the missus drive my XJ she near reversed straight through a truck! :P keep up the good work

rusty577
11-04-2012, 08:20 AM
Thanks Dudzy - Yeh the misses goes alright ;) only problem was fighting her to drive again :wall: She loves it.

Forgot to mention we all came down the mountain rather quickly at one point my front tyres left the ground and came back down and hit the bump stops.

When I got back down I checked over the car and was all good other then my hard transmission lines had been crushed by the upper control arm :rolleyes:

I thought I bump stopped enought to stop that happening but obviously not.

This morning early I replace it with 10mm rubber transmission line.

Is this a standard cooler on a 96 XJ?

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep61.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep62.jpg

Hoses done.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep63.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep64.jpg

The old lines, one was completely crushed

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep65.jpg

Also while I had the Aux thermo out I thought Id take a picture of it. I modified the shroud to take a 95 V6 Ford Telstar electric engine fan. It works unreal :cool: must flow at least x2 the amount of air as the standard one.

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep66.jpg

While it was out I replaced the serpentine belt too and cleaned up a dry idler pulley bearing. With the belt off I pulled the alternator out with the intention of pulling it down for a clean, But I ran out of time and seemed to spin nice and quietly anyway. I decided to just spray it out with electrical contact cleaner (the stuff that evaporates) but after putting it back on and starting Im not getting any charge and my volt meter is reading just over 12v not the normal 14v when started.

I didn't think the spray would hurt it? I checked all the wiring I had pulled off too and is all fine.

Might take it for a drive around the block and see if it sorts its self out.

Also I noticed with the AC on when cold my belts slipping I guess my AC bearing needs a lube or replacement?

Siggers
11-04-2012, 08:58 AM
Thats not the stock tranny cooler, defiantly added... Usually with alternators its the regulator that is the reason they stop working, pull it off and give it a good clean and dry it well, making sure the contacts are in good condition and are touching there intended areas...

Frank_Grimes
12-04-2012, 12:21 PM
Hey Rusty

Not sure if you mentioned, but how long did shipping take from Hammerhead?

Cheers

junglejuice
12-04-2012, 12:39 PM
Yeah definitely not a stock cooler, that Telstar fan must full a crap load of air as the stock one pulls a fair amount when working properly...

If you crushed the lines that badly I am thinking that 10mm may not be enough, what bumpstops are you using? I am using the originals in mine and all they do is slow down the travel slightly till the 30mm poly block hits the steel bumpstop cup as I don't want crushed lines for a 4th time....

rusty577
12-04-2012, 07:46 PM
Hey Rusty

Not sure if you mentioned, but how long did shipping take from Hammerhead?

Cheers

Postage was 2 weeks to my door. Cost wasn't all that bad either. I also didn't pay any import tax because it was under $1000. Remember that $1000 includes postage.

rusty577
12-04-2012, 08:00 PM
Yeah definitely not a stock cooler, that Telstar fan must full a crap load of air as the stock one pulls a fair amount when working properly...

If you crushed the lines that badly I am thinking that 10mm may not be enough, what bumpstops are you using? I am using the originals in mine and all they do is slow down the travel slightly till the 30mm poly block hits the steel bumpstop cup as I don't want crushed lines for a 4th time....

My standard AUX fan failed and the wreckers wanted $75 for one. I had a old telstar up the back yard that I got the fan off. It seems like it sucks tons more air and lowers my temps more off road. It always sat on 100deg offroad in soft sand or slow crawling tracks. Now when I turn the manual override switch on the fan brings temps down to between 100 and the next line down in the same wheelin situations.

Im very happy with it.

For bump stops Ive removed the standard ones and I'm using cut up rubber mallet silicone onto the coil base. There around 30-35mm. When disconnected and on the flex ramp it sat on the bump stops without touching the old lines.

The new 10mm rubber line is routed away from there anyway so I don't think ill have any more trouble with that.

Anyway today I gave the old girl a cut and polish, she had alot of scratches up the side from sticks and lantarna. It came up really nice, pitty she will get dirty again this weekend lol :evil:

rusty577
12-04-2012, 08:04 PM
One mod off the list with the aftermarket auto cooler..... That was my next purchase. :)

Also I left the rad cooler connected. I just thought it would be better on the auto to warm up quickly and I'm not having any overheating issues so why change a good thing.

junglejuice
13-04-2012, 05:45 AM
My standard AUX fan failed and the wreckers wanted $75 for one. I had a old telstar up the back yard that I got the fan off. It seems like it sucks tons more air and lowers my temps more off road. It always sat on 100deg offroad in soft sand or slow crawling tracks. Now when I turn the manual override switch on the fan brings temps down to between 100 and the next line down in the same wheelin situations.

Im very happy with it.

For bump stops Ive removed the standard ones and I'm using cut up rubber mallet silicone onto the coil base. There around 30-35mm. When disconnected and on the flex ramp it sat on the bump stops without touching the old lines.

The new 10mm rubber line is routed away from there anyway so I don't think ill have any more trouble with that.

Anyway today I gave the old girl a cut and polish, she had alot of scratches up the side from sticks and lantarna. It came up really nice, pitty she will get dirty again this weekend lol :evil:

When I set mine I took the springs out and jacked the diff all the way up till it stopped (fully compressed OEM stops) and I still had around 10mm or so before contact would be possible so something would have to bend for me to crush the lines again....

Frank_Grimes
13-04-2012, 08:46 AM
Postage was 2 weeks to my door. Cost wasn't all that bad either. I also didn't pay any import tax because it was under $1000. Remember that $1000 includes postage.

That's pretty damn good shipping time. Other shops I've been talking to can't commit to anywhere near that, and their freight cost is roughly the same as the price of the kit. Might have to get onto Hammerhead. I like the look of their 4.5in RC kit with full leaf packs.

rusty577
13-04-2012, 02:16 PM
That's pretty damn good shipping time. Other shops I've been talking to can't commit to anywhere near that, and their freight cost is roughly the same as the price of the kit. Might have to get onto Hammerhead. I like the look of their 4.5in RC kit with full leaf packs.

Full leaf packs would be nice but will bump postage up alot because of weight. Also there adjustable pan hard rod(if included) will be useless to you as its for a LHD.

Also remember anything over $1000 will be hit with import tax too before customs will release it to you.

All I can suggest is giving hammerhead4x4 a msg.

fieds83
13-04-2012, 06:36 PM
I think you have inspired me to to be sensible and go with the 3 inch lift. I was looking at the 4.5 but I am really not excited about having to do all the extras to go to the next level. I am currently running 31x10.5 coopers, they rub when in the rear with car loaded up, have you increased the length of your bump stops to accomodate the 31's?

rusty577
13-04-2012, 08:00 PM
I think you have inspired me to to be sensible and go with the 3 inch lift. I was looking at the 4.5 but I am really not excited about having to do all the extras to go to the next level. I am currently running 31x10.5 coopers, they rub when in the rear with car loaded up, have you increased the length of your bump stops to accomodate the 31's?

I have my 31x10.5 mt's on standard alloy rims and dont get any rubbing at full flex. The offset of the standard rims work perfect. I didnt have to increase my bump stops. I might of added 5-10mm

I can always add 2" blocks and 2" shackels for 5" lift for 33" tyre down the track after the 31's wear out, sye done, diff re gearing and wooders panhard rod and relocation bracket.

Im happy with it at the moment, have not been stuck once. The front locker really helps off road. I creep through stuff while my mates is patrols n cruisers hit stuff over n over until momentem get them through or I tow them out. I make shit look easy.

fieds83
13-04-2012, 09:20 PM
That may be my problem, mine are on 15x7 dynamics with a 4.25 inch backspacing. It's the regearing and sye that I am trying to avoid at this point in time. I had all the plans in the world when I got the car but have not really had a need to do all of the above. Lift is definitely necessary though and I will order the kit in the next week or so, the rear LSD is pretty good and with only running 31's at this point the diffs should be just fine for now.

The locker is probably the next most logical step, I better do some research.

rusty577
15-04-2012, 10:31 AM
The rear LSD is ok offroad if its nice and tight/new but if from what I have been reading they seem to wear out at around 100 000km. I'm going to give mr wooders a call and see if they do a rebuild kit for the d35 LSD.

Ive found nothing can compare to having a locker up front. Just makes life so much easier off road.

Had a rear drive shaft uni joint fail on me yesterday while going up my driveway. Pulled the drive shaft and replace both uni joints with greaseable replacements from REPCO. They cost $28 each and also found that all the uni joints are the same.

Some pictures

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep67.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep68.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep69.jpg

http://members.dodo.com.au/~rustynluke/jeep/jeep70.jpg

Also the slight vibes I had accelerating from 40km to 60km/h after doing the lift is gone :o

junglejuice
15-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Rusty I thought you were running a SYE? That tailshaft won't work with a SYE....

junglejuice
15-04-2012, 02:47 PM
That may be my problem, mine are on 15x7 dynamics with a 4.25 inch backspacing. It's the regearing and sye that I am trying to avoid at this point in time. I had all the plans in the world when I got the car but have not really had a need to do all of the above. Lift is definitely necessary though and I will order the kit in the next week or so, the rear LSD is pretty good and with only running 31's at this point the diffs should be just fine for now.

The locker is probably the next most logical step, I better do some research.

Avoiding a SYE is odd, they are easy to fit, not very expensive and IMHO worth every cent, I have one in mine and I am only on a 2" lift....

rusty577
15-04-2012, 06:15 PM
I'm not running a SYE yet. I was planning a hack n tap. How have you done your's and how was your drive shaft modded? Also what was the total cost? I can do all the work myself.

Easy Rollins 1
15-04-2012, 06:30 PM
Rusty,got a Uni part number? I'll do my unis soon I reckon,one less prob to worry about and I also have that slight vibe.

rusty577
16-04-2012, 07:35 AM
REPCO part number for the uni is K5-13XR, U/J - 1310 SERIES.

Hope that helps