View Full Version : Overland - Is it worth it?
Artzy
24-06-2012, 03:07 PM
Is an Overland really worth the extra 10k.
The front camera seems to be pointless, the car has a windscreen, can't you just look out of it? The heated steering wheel can be easily replaced with gloves, Sat nav is optional on lower models. Quadralift is only useful for offroading. Am I missing anything else?
turbomart
24-06-2012, 03:49 PM
I assume your talking about brand new !?
EXLR8
24-06-2012, 04:29 PM
This is obviously a personal choice. If you were to say I'm buying a Limited CRD with pano roof, quadra-lift and lux group, the Overland is definitely a better option as you get some more extras and the badge for better resale. If you were happy with everything standard on a Limited, the Overland is a waste of money. If you are happy with everything on a Laredo, well you get the picture.
We wanted most of the gear on the Limited and liked items such as Quadra-lift, ACC and vented seats, two which are exclusive to the Overland along with the badge and associated resale over "optioning up" a Limited. So for us it was an easy decision.
Again, personal choice. Just break each "extra" down into what it is worth to you.
If we were not intending to go off road, we would save $20K (forgo a few extras) and get a Territory Titanium.
Army Barbie
24-06-2012, 04:36 PM
From a Jeep salesperson's opinion.. It can be. It depends what your needs are.
The Overland has silly things like a heated steering wheel
But if you want all the options a limited has plus
- a sunroof
- 5.7L V8 Hemi
- adaptive cruise control
- blind spot monitoring
- overland badges
- ventilated leather seats
- leather wrapped dash
- nav system
- quadralift suspension as standard (not just for offroad use. It's self leveling for towing purposes as well and a softer ride)
- Quadra-drive 4wd system instead of the quadra-trac 11 Active full time 4wd
To compare an Overland against its Toyota/BMW/Audi etc rivals with the same features, yes it's worth the money because it's a third of the price of anything as good.
But, if those options don't suit your needs, go for a limited.
In saying that, do you mind if I ask why you're comparing the limited with the Overland and why it sounds like you've ruled a Laredo out?
Yes a Laredo is the 'bottom of the range' but it still has so many great features that other 'bottom of the range' cars don't come with. A lot of customers i speak with like the price of the Laredos but the only reason why theyd want a limited is for the leather. Easy fix. I dont know about other dealerships, but where i work its an extra $2000 for leather, its installed aftermarket and is an a grade leather which is actually softer than the leather in the limited. If you want a V6 Grand, go for a Laredo, add leather and you're looking at $51,000 drive away or $58,000 for a diesel Laredo with leather. From the outside it's hard to tell the difference and from the inside, an untrained eye can't tell the difference and you don't get the 'dated' wood grain of the limited dash.
My honest 2c.:)
fester
24-06-2012, 07:17 PM
Is an Overland really worth the extra 10k.
The front camera seems to be pointless, the car has a windscreen, can't you just look out of it? The heated steering wheel can be easily replaced with gloves, Sat nav is optional on lower models. Quadralift is only useful for offroading. Am I missing anything else?
As others have already said it depends on ho wmuch you want those things and how you personally value them. The heated steering wheel seems odd though, it does get cold here in winter if the car sits out and I hate gloves but...
On a more serious note the quadralift is handy for towing but great for offroading. Which ties in the front camera, when you are creeping up to a rock ledge uphill and can't see over the bonnet the front camera would be great. Mind you there are cheaper ways to get reversing and front cameras and sat nav but nothing beats the factory integration for styling.
Bomber
24-06-2012, 11:41 PM
Options are irrelevant at resale time. It makes far more sense to either option up the Laredo and still be in front money wise or buy the Overland and get extras the Limited can't have. Nobody buying a Limited from you in afew years will care about the extra fruit, 95% are sold as town cars.
johnv
25-06-2012, 06:00 AM
Thanks Army Barbie, a very honest and practical 2C worth.
Of course for those who are looking for a "touring" and tow vehicle, a stock Laredo can have suspension, fuel tank etc etc added to it without much drama.
Personally a set of custom lambswool seat covers are a better and more comfortable option than leather, and at around $600 far cheaper than leather, but that personal preference may not suit everyone.
ENFORCER
25-06-2012, 12:51 PM
I do not know what front camera everyone is referring to, it is ACC and FCW which is a radar and does not display any image on the screen.
As for value, it is there if you appreciate it. The ACC alone is worth the extra, mine when it worked (long story) was unreal. It made long distance drive much more relaxed as you did not need to keep your foot on the throttle or watch the closing distance of the car in front. Set the speed and the ACC maintains the distance.
The vented seats is another great feature and was used a heap on long trips.
The only option that the Overland came with that I did not want was the Pano roof, but it stays shut and does not bother me.
Do not forget the Overland also comes with the ELSD, which is only available as an option on the offroad pack.
Army Barbie
25-06-2012, 02:12 PM
Yeah no front camera on The Overland. The spherical shaped, golf ball sized thing at the bottom, middle of the bumper is the sensor for the Adaptive Cruise Control
Tiddy
25-06-2012, 08:16 PM
My opinion, if the $'s aren't an issue go the Overland as its better equipped & its resale may be better, otherwise a laredo with a few options would be good.
When you look at the different between a Laredo & a Limited, it seems to come down to standard leather, slightly upgraded sound system, the memory system for the seats, 20" inch wheels, which may not necessarily be better anyway & a few other things..BUT is that worth some $10k more?.
For a base model the Laredo is pretty well decked out & as for the seats, tailor made sheepskins always look good.
tiddy
fester
25-06-2012, 08:33 PM
Trouble with an upspec model is they all have some good features you wangt and others you don't and the lower spec models can never be upgraded exactly how you want. It's a but like Maccas marketing "do you want fries with that" except car makers force teh fries on you.
We love the memory seat function as it stops the wife and myself bitching the other left it in the wrong position. Also love the leather seats, we have a dog and even though it sits in the back dog hair still travels and it's far easier to get any stray hairs off the leather than out of cloth.
Felix
25-06-2012, 09:04 PM
For a base model the Laredo is pretty well decked out & as for the seats, tailor made sheepskins always look good.
tiddy
Hi all, new here & this is first post, been checking out site for a while now & should be taking delivery of a new Laredo by the end of the week.
just a quick question, have always had sheepskins on my cars, all theJeep dealers, when asked, would not fit sheepskins as it would possibly cause some kind of interferance to the airbag system. Did not speak to dealers personally as all was done through a broker to get best price. Can anyone enlighten me as to existing/non existant probs, & where in Brisbane can tailored sheepskins be purchased.
thanks all.
Army Barbie
26-06-2012, 07:05 AM
Hi all, new here & this is first post, been checking out site for a while now & should be taking delivery of a new Laredo by the end of the week.
just a quick question, have always had sheepskins on my cars, all theJeep dealers, when asked, would not fit sheepskins as it would possibly cause some kind of interferance to the airbag system. Did not speak to dealers personally as all was done through a broker to get best price. Can anyone enlighten me as to existing/non existant probs, & where in Brisbane can tailored sheepskins be purchased.
thanks all.
Hi Felix, I'd say the interference they'd be talking about is the seat mounted airbags which are on the outer side of the driver and front passenger seats. So, you'd need to find a company that make air bag compatible car seats, specifically for a 2012 Grand Cherokee :)
Felix
26-06-2012, 08:34 AM
thanks for that info AB
jeeppleap
26-06-2012, 09:06 AM
I went an upgraded diesel laredo. I added quadra-lift, off-road pack (so get quadra-drive II and skid plates), leather (choose any colour you want), full tinting, recovery hook and tow bar package, and came out over $8,000 cheaper than the limited standard drive-away price. The only thing I would have wanted from a limited but couldn't get was the memory seats, but we have survived this far without them and would have had to still add the quadra-lift, off-road package, tow bar, recovery hook, changed the tires down to 18" and tinting all-round, So I would have been paying over $10k more for memory seats!
On the overland, the only things I would have wanted is the adaptive cruise control and maybe the ventilated cool seats - but again, I still would have had add the tow bar, the recovery hook, the all round tinting, the skid plates (not the quadra drive, but that is only about $200 more than the skid plates anyway in a package) and swapped back to 18" for another $22k on-top. That is of is a lot of cruise control adaption and cool seat work in summer for my mind.
So for me the top specs weren't worth it as the base is so well fitted out already.
As for the sheep-skins I have read a few people who have fitted them - just need to find the airbag compatible ones.
Tiddy
26-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Hi Felix
The comments made by the dealers: "all theJeep dealers, when asked, would not fit sheepskins as it would possibly cause some kind of interferance to the airbag system"
Is bullshit, I had seat cover made for my wife's Renault Laguna, it has airbags in the sides of the front seats. Aries in East Brisbane can do them, it has different stitching to allow the side bags to deploy.
I also has custom made cover made for a Frontera I had years ago by a company in Spring Hill, Auto Fleece. They were beautiful seat covers, the car was a Frontera S & it had badge on the door done is a particular font, the guy took a pic of the badge, downloaded it into some machine & he was able to embroider that onto the seat...looked very schmick.
tiddy
Felix
26-06-2012, 10:12 PM
Thanks Tiddy.
will check them out.
Glenn01
26-06-2012, 10:45 PM
I went an upgraded diesel laredo. I added quadra-lift, off-road pack (so get quadra-drive II and skid plates), leather (choose any colour you want), full tinting, recovery hook and tow bar package, and came out over $8,000 cheaper than the limited standard drive-away price.
That sounds great - I'm thinking of doing something similar. Do you have the breakdown on how much the quadra lift and off-road pack costs?
Also, what do people think about the value of these - chances are I won't get much opportunity to do a lot of serious offroad stuff - just occasional fairly tame stuff but I just like the thought of having them ...
EXLR8
26-06-2012, 10:59 PM
That sounds great - I'm thinking of doing something similar. Do you have the breakdown on how much the quadra lift and off-road pack costs?
Also, what do people think about the value of these - chances are I won't get much opportunity to do a lot of serious offroad stuff - just occasional fairly tame stuff but I just like the thought of having them ...
RRP for Laredo Quadra-Lift option is $2500 and Off Road Adventure II is $1500.
That would take the on road RRP for a Laredo CRD to around $60K.
Glenn01
26-06-2012, 11:51 PM
RRP for Laredo Quadra-Lift option is $2500 and Off Road Adventure II is $1500.
That would take the on road RRP for a Laredo CRD to around $60K.
Thank you!
briteway
27-06-2012, 06:52 AM
Also, what do people think about the value of these - chances are I won't get much opportunity to do a lot of serious offroad stuff - just occasional fairly tame stuff but I just like the thought of having them ...
Hmmm... until the 4WD bug bites :mrgreen:
I get bitten by that kind of a bug from time to time :shock:. I might have 1 year in between bites. Maybe it's also got something to do with stress relief **).
jeeppleap
27-06-2012, 10:04 AM
On the value of the quadra-lift and quadra-drive if you aren't doing too much off-roading... well the quadra-lift is meant to give a better ride, from the reviews I have read, is better for towing and then when you do go off-road (on a soft-sand beach or rocky trail) you can lift up the car for that 1% of the time you need the clearance as opposed to getting a permanent lift and increasing the height and centre-of gravity 100% of the time, or crossing your fingers the clearance will be ok. Down side is, it costs money and people are nervous about how this system will hold up long term. If it does have a problem long term, like old car with leveling suspension you can probably just switch it back to normal shocks.
As for the off-road pack - if you do go on a rocky trail, the under-body protection may save you, but if you aren't doing it much, maybe you would be fine - tough to say. Then on the quadra-drive, I think the quadra-trac system (standard) is a pretty good system, but to have a ELSD for only ~$200 more than the skids plates alone, seems a bargain.
Don't forget that Quadralift can also lower the car into "sport" mode. It doesn't transform the car into a sports car but the handling difference is definately noticeable. And since my Overland spends 95% of the time of the road, Sport mode is used so much more often then lifting it up into "OffRoad 1 or 2"
EXLR8
27-06-2012, 09:46 PM
Don't forget that Quadralift can also lower the car into "sport" mode. It doesn't transform the car into a sports car but the handling difference is definately noticeable. And since my Overland spends 95% of the time of the road, Sport mode is used so much more often then lifting it up into "OffRoad 1 or 2"
Exactly where I think I will get the greatest benefit from Quadra-lift (or lower). I test drove a Limited Hemi in Sport Mode (with Quadra-Lift) and the handling exceeded my expectation for what the car is, it (almost) reminded me somewhat of the Territory's on road manners.
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