View Full Version : Re-Gearing
Jimmyb
02-02-2006, 10:33 PM
Well currently the CJ7 has a mild setup. By mild I mean its not working well.
The motor pumps out into a Ford C6 auto box, with reduction being done by a NP205 case. The diffs are running 4.56 ratios as I didnt want to lose to much meat off the D44 crown wheel. All this adds up to a final ratio around the 21.99:1 which is crap by anyones terms.
So the new idea. Simple is buy a Atlas or Klune but very costly and wheres the fun in that.
Heres my theory, make a doubler. Get my hands on a NP203 box, split out the range selector section, grab a Stazworks adapter and in theory presto I have a 4:1 reduction with final output up to 44.87:1
So now to find a Np203.......
Gildo
03-02-2006, 07:58 AM
What does a NP203 come in?
Glenn
03-02-2006, 08:22 AM
Hey Jimmy, may sound silly but how about making your own transfer case, I thought about when I was off road racing, you don't need high range? don't need to disengage 4wd? then something like a chain driven single speed transfercase would be fairly simple to make, know anyone with a lathe?
CJ6np435
03-02-2006, 09:37 AM
What kind of effect does the auto have on your overall ratio?
reason I ask, my manual tranny jeep has o/all in the vicinity of 80:1 (can't remember exact figures) and the 40 odd you mention still seems high.
pardon me if this is a dumb question to the enlightened, but I've never had an auto
Jimmyb
03-02-2006, 09:49 AM
The theory is that a auto will double it, which is why my original 22:1 I thought wouldnt have been a prob.
No idea yet what a NP203 came in......
CJ6np435
03-02-2006, 10:15 AM
Ok so with the doubler and auto you should achieve 88:1
is this even low enough?
I assume the auto is "slipping" or shearing the oil to achieve the reduction
does it get hot! and what do you do to combat this
isleofman
03-02-2006, 10:22 AM
have you considered a flipped dana300?
peter henry
Jimmyb
03-02-2006, 03:49 PM
Thats correct CJ6..... That will be low enough. As it stands, when you go to climb a flat face thats as big as the 42" rubber, it struggles a bit. Yes the auto gets hot, not too hot though, running twin coolers and going to get into cooling in more in this 2nd rebuild of the vehicle.
http://www.stazworks.com/images/d1.gif
Thats a stazworks adapter, connecting a NP203 front to a NP205 full case.
http://www.northwestfab.com/images/completekit.JPG
Or this kit from Northwest Fab, more expensive but more complete.
Wooders
03-02-2006, 05:23 PM
Nah ditch the auto & tcase and get something that sghifts like this :
http://classicunimogs.com/images/diag_shifter2.jpg
CJ6np435
03-02-2006, 05:55 PM
Some 203 info but you've probably already read it
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/howto/47538/
Jimmyb
03-02-2006, 06:48 PM
yeah read that thanks. Havnt found where I can get one but :( Found what doubler I am going to use, just need to find a case now.
Nah ditch the auto & tcase and get something that sghifts like this :
http://classicunimogs.com/images/diag_shifter2.jpg
Uni moggish...
jap jeep
16-02-2006, 11:14 PM
If considering custom building a tcse you could mount a diff centre with a spool or
air locker. Modify flange end of pinion or fab an adaptor would be interesting for posible ratio changes.
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