View Full Version : Proof that the Jeep Patriot doesn't have to be a poseur
Jimmyb
09-04-2010, 12:21 PM
<p align="justify"><img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/04/06-patriot.jpg" width="300" height="200" hspace="10" border="0" align="left" /><strong>Were Jeep's stable an actual family, the Patriot would be the Wrangler's dweeby younger brother – you know, the one that can only pick on the drooling infant Compass. Whereas the rest of the brand is more than happy to set out on a weekend of adventure in the wild, the Patriot is a little more likely to stay at home in the safety of an air-conditioned garage and organize its Lego collection.
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Jeep has just released a slew of new photos of the Patriot Extreme the company unveiled at this year's Easter Jeep Safari. As the story goes, Chrysler's engineers have outfitted the truck with nothing more than a slight suspension lift, a set of rock sliders and new wheels before heading off to Moab to play for the weekend. Throw in a little help from the trail-rated package, and this urban commuter becomes more than capable off-road.
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Jeddo
09-04-2010, 12:41 PM
i like it... the side view sortof has a new range rover feel to it, with the slim tyres, square wheel arches and nice lines. keeping it simple but still a drastic change.
Gravel
09-04-2010, 01:10 PM
Still looks like a soft roader...
Very small, not much clearance, really how far could you go in one of these?
bally12
09-04-2010, 02:49 PM
i like it too, looks like it has zero flex in the rear end in that first pic but still looks ok.
carvesdodo
09-04-2010, 03:23 PM
Very small, not much clearance, really how far could you go in one of these?
Probably about as far as an ol' subaru wagon .... and Ive seen good drivers embarrass landcruiser owners with a subie. ;)
Gravel
09-04-2010, 03:45 PM
Probably about as far as an ol' subaru wagon .... and Ive seen good drivers embarrass landcruiser owners with a subie. ;)
reckon the old subi had a better tummy tuck than this... Was prob a lot lighter too.
bally12
09-04-2010, 04:02 PM
Probably about as far as an ol' subaru wagon .... and Ive seen good drivers embarrass landcruiser owners with a subie. ;)
i had a subaru brumby before the tj, it ate up fraser island, didnt get bogged once or look like coming close to it. the lil subie's go placesyou wouldnt expect them too. indian head was a laugh, guys in there cruisers and pootrols getting bogged andid just bounce on by:monkey:
How low does jeep want to set the bar for an 'off roader' classification just so they can sell a few more with its trail rated 'package'. I call this brand personality abuse. By these standards if you're not driving an offroader these days there must be something wrong with you. Now we are comparing it to the old subaru? Well then yes, if we keep our blinkers on to imagine a world where only patriots and subaru's exist we can say the patriot is in the off roader basket. My mrs barina can go where that patriot's going if i were to modify it with nothing but lift + wheels. Lets declare the barina with its trail rated 'package' a short wheel based off roader. I see forums for the KK KJ XJ GC TJ JK and Commander. Nope, sorry, no patriot forum there on aus jeep OFFROAD.
Shauny B
09-04-2010, 06:31 PM
It looks like a nice package.
Ben73
14-04-2010, 08:49 PM
How low does jeep want to set the bar for an 'off roader' classification just so they can sell a few more with its trail rated 'package'. I call this brand personality abuse. By these standards if you're not driving an offroader these days there must be something wrong with you. Now we are comparing it to the old subaru? Well then yes, if we keep our blinkers on to imagine a world where only patriots and subaru's exist we can say the patriot is in the off roader basket. My mrs barina can go where that patriot's going if i were to modify it with nothing but lift + wheels. Lets declare the barina with its trail rated 'package' a short wheel based off roader. I see forums for the KK KJ XJ GC TJ JK and Commander. Nope, sorry, no patriot forum there on aus jeep OFFROAD.
That's why you would fail at being CEO of Jeep.
With all this climate crap they have to look at ways they will not lose money. Selling a small 4x4 with mild off road capabilities is a good way to keep selling products.
That's why you would fail at being CEO of Jeep.
With all this climate crap they have to look at ways they will not lose money. Selling a small 4x4 with mild off road capabilities is a good way to keep selling products.
thank you, i wasnt aware that jeep is producing this vehicle to make money. Its marketing lies im having a go at. Its the consumer who owns the products brand personality and jeep are abusing this. everything's so simple when you're 19.
BennyWA
14-04-2010, 09:18 PM
Love it, I'd buy one for the missus!
murray
15-04-2010, 11:11 AM
Love it, I'd buy one for the missus!
dont do it
i brought the wife a xj
murray
15-04-2010, 11:16 AM
How low does jeep want to set the bar for an 'off roader' classification just so they can sell a few more with its trail rated 'package'. I call this brand personality abuse. By these standards if you're not driving an offroader these days there must be something wrong with you. Now we are comparing it to the old subaru? Well then yes, if we keep our blinkers on to imagine a world where only patriots and subaru's exist we can say the patriot is in the off roader basket. My mrs barina can go where that patriot's going if i were to modify it with nothing but lift + wheels. Lets declare the barina with its trail rated 'package' a short wheel based off roader. I see forums for the KK KJ XJ GC TJ JK and Commander. Nope, sorry, no patriot forum there on aus jeep OFFROAD.
(pulls out soap box) iin the good old days all jeep products had to be capable of doing the rubicon trail in the factory form
yes i know the trail has got harder due to erosion etc
but this sort of vehicle dosent belong in the trail rated catoregy
and neither does half the other crap they are making
carvesdodo
15-04-2010, 11:48 AM
How low does jeep want to set the bar for an 'off roader' classification just so they can sell a few more with its trail rated 'package'. I call this brand personality abuse. By these standards if you're not driving an offroader these days there must be something wrong with you. Now we are comparing it to the old subaru? Well then yes, if we keep our blinkers on to imagine a world where only patriots and subaru's exist we can say the patriot is in the off roader basket.
(pulls out soap box) iin the good old days all jeep products had to be capable of doing the rubicon trail in the factory form
yes i know the trail has got harder due to erosion etc
but this sort of vehicle dosent belong in the trail rated catoregy
and neither does half the other crap they are making
And theres the answer .... ;)
Brand and Model .....
Kaiser & AMC etc ............... all made car models and Jeep models.
Chrysler on the other hand, made cars ... acquired the Jeep model ... turned it fully into a brand for marketing purposes, and stuck the Jeep badge on what should have been .....
Good chrysler softroaders proudly sold by Chrysler.
We can thank chrysler for the crap that goes on .... on the forum about the different newer models.
riverpatriot
09-05-2010, 08:18 PM
like the patriot so much i own 2, and i happily wave at the bigger brothers all the time, i laugh my head off when they have to wave back hahahaha, the ones that dont i just follow by giving them the bird teehee
flyoz
07-12-2010, 05:48 PM
Hey its an ok 4wd its mainly the drivers skill that counts offroad. I have had the ole CJ6, Landrovers Jackaroo and now patriot. All are good.
Even a Renault FWD wagon got me up some steep stuff at back of Eildon.
But Ive seen mugs Bogged and broken driving sherman tanks
rupicon
11-12-2010, 11:42 AM
Trail rated patriot
im not feeling it
garbonzo
12-11-2011, 02:25 PM
I've got the 2010 2.4 cvt and it does everything I want. Handles reasonable trails, heavy corrugation, freeway rush-hours, and major trips to Bunnings with no problems or issues. Averaging low 9's now for fuel use. It's comfortable, looks great, so far completely reliable, and economical. It's nimlbe handling is outstanding on the road or light bush work - and it is a very stable platform at any speed. We love ours. Best we have had for many many years....Jeep has really done some intelligent design work and delivered an all-rounder vehicle that I think has very few peers at the price...
KJ_andy
14-11-2011, 06:43 PM
There's always the guys that believe they've bought the only Jeep worth driving. Trail driving is only as tuff as you make it. Most extreme offroaders have to go to fabricated parks to watch their articulation. The real country is out ther, take your wheels and go find it...
Jeep'ers
16-11-2011, 08:43 AM
There's always the guys that believe they've bought the only Jeep worth driving. Trail driving is only as tuff as you make it. Most extreme offroaders have to go to fabricated parks to watch their articulation. The real country is out ther, take your wheels and go find it...
Absolutely, I can't bag this car either as I can see a designated market for them, the suburban small family the really doesn't camp much or the yuppy type who rarely see any off road stuff other than climbing a pavement. Now should we be selling those families or market lifted and locked wranglers and jk's with 33's or 35's and so forth.. No... But they would be well suited to this vehicle if all they want is a weekend adventure and a comfortable car to drive...... Better than a rav4 or the like...Servicing it on the other hand is another argument!!
I've got the 2010 2.4 cvt and it does everything I want. Handles reasonable trails, heavy corrugation, freeway rush-hours, and major trips to Bunnings with no problems or issues. Averaging low 9's now for fuel use. It's comfortable, looks great, so far completely reliable, and economical. It's nimlbe handling is outstanding on the road or light bush work - and it is a very stable platform at any speed. We love ours. Best we have had for many many years....Jeep has really done some intelligent design work and delivered an all-rounder vehicle that I think has very few peers at the price...
Wow you've just described my old Falcon that I iwned about 20 years ago ;)
Don't hate the patriot thing, but I don't like the way that chrsyler market it. But I don't like a lot of what chrysler does.
Good point above about the wannabe on 35" tyres too Penguin
Eukanuba
03-12-2011, 03:47 PM
First post, so i'll jump in... ( hi by the way ! )
I've owned a couple 4x4's in the past - and made my jump into a jeep with a brand new off the floor 2008 patriot limited.. did the black paint, leather interior.. diesel engine.. I wanted a wrangler, but the missus made the ultimatum that she had to be able to drive it too.. so we agreed to settle on the Diesel turbo.
In a nutshell, having owned one for 3 years now.. ( almost 4 )
It's a fantastic car to drive on and off road.. it pulls our racing trailer with ease - it's comfortable for long trips ( which we do lots of ) and it easily handles mud, gravel, soft shitty sand ( lots of that over here in Perth ) and will climb almost anything with reasonable ease.
I think you'll find that it's the turbo diesel that makes a huge difference, I wouldnt have p*ssed on the petrol version..
Alot of the capability of the vehicle is in the driver, and knowing what the vehicle can and can not do.
it has some downsides, as it has it's upsides...
it is a low clearance vehicle, and as such - wont be all twisted up over a rock.. if you buy one of these - do not expect it to do what a wrangler can do.. it's not built for that..
it will, however - easily pull the skin off a rice pudding.. it will pull any bogged vehicle out of a hole.. and I used it to pull a mates 100 series out, while he was still hitched to his trailer.. that had a racing boat on the back.. ( he sunk it next to the river and lost traction in the sticky mud ).
I often am called as ' the last resort ' when all the bigger vehicles are just churning up the place.. ' oh, alright - give it a go '.. ( they're always surprised that the little 'show jeep' has big balls )
dont underestimate these little weapons, they are definitely very a capable vehicle - but in their own right..
alot of people say to me ' you take that thing offroad ? '... so I point to the scratched up front and tail.. ' sure do ! '
If getting out there is what you want, and you dont want to climb rocks - this vehicle is exceptionally capable..
one downside is those damned tyres, super soft continentals - with 215-60 R17's.. low and wide..
mine only lasted 30,000k's.. and my next set will be cooper tyres.. with 70 or higher.. 60 is too low profile for what I do.. but they are fantastic on the sand..
I'll post up some pics shortly..
Eukanuba
03-12-2011, 03:53 PM
Absolutely, I can't bag this car either as I can see a designated market for them, the suburban small family the really doesn't camp much or the yuppy type who rarely see any off road stuff other than climbing a pavement.
Jeepers, I can see your logic - and yes.. I would agree with you.. for the most part..
'most' jeep owners, as are 'most' 4x4 owners never actually take them off road - would I be right ?
How many mums do you see, in Coles or Woolies carpark - with 10 kids in the back.. and the most pristine 4x4 you've ever seen ? there's hundred of them in every suburb.. and most buy them for the ' biggest car on the road ' theory.. most cant even tell you when you'd engage 4wd.. or how to do it on their vehicle..
I do disagree with the patriot being classed as a 'yuppy' 4wd.. I would have to argue this with the wrangler, this is more often than not the choice of the cashed up yuppie.. there are plenty of wranglers out there that have ' all the fruit ' with lights, winches, high jacks on the roof and dual wheels on the back.. that are pristine show room condition - and were bought to be the ' weekend toy ' - that might go camping 1 time a year ( if that )
I actually dont know anyone else that owns a jeep ( other than an ex-boss ) and that's his play toy (wrangler), he keeps the Audi TT for the daily
driver..
Most yuppies see the wrangler as being the iconic 'jeep' and see the pat as being similar to the poor cousin.. ( which is fine by me )..
I have noticed, that english people call all 4wd's 'jeeps' as a generic term.. which I find slightly amusing..
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