Diesel XJ **Parts & Info**
 

OK all you Oil burners Lets get a thread started so all the info is in one thread which will make it a lot easier for ajor members to find.. 8-)

So please keep the Chit Chat for other threads and just post your info to share. PM me if you have something to add


Engine VM (detroit) '425CXI....The 2.5 litre Turbo-Diesel engine is of Vittori manufacture, purchased fully built from the VM plant in Italy. This was only available with a manual transmission. Less than a year before end of production an automatic version was announced Automatic VM diesels are rare, and the Ford Motor company used the 2.5 VM diesel in their Scorpio as well as Rover in their Range Rover.

Good Books



Engine Oil Capacity

including filter = 6.8 lt
Filter replacement only = 0.4 lt
"Use only oil meeting standard MIL-2104C or API classification CD or higher or CCML D4, D5." Whatever the hell that all means.... !!!

Oil Filter

Jeep part 'K05003558AA' Note: sometimes Jeep add 'K' to the front of the part numbers.
Also Ryco Z596
Valvoline V074.
Oil Filter ROF88 available from repco for $21 also fits

Air Filter

Jeep Part 'K53030730'
A valvoline VA45 will fit your XJ TD, they cost ~$25.
purolator a44727 and ryco a1332 also grasco auto parts in south oz can get most genuine parts at good prices ph08 8445 6311

Raycor 10micron filter elements for $45. From
Brisbane Air Cleaner Services Pty Ltd
http://www.afsa.org.au/bacs/index.html
Unit 2 / 37 Kremzow Road
Brendale 4500
Phone: (07) 3881 0384
Fax: (07) 3205 5443
Email: BacsAssist@bigpond.com

Air Conditioner

Air conditioner parts (non genuine but good) and repairs can be found at J.M Auto Air Campsie (NSW) (02) 9718 2209. (they also have the exact same unit as the diesel cost me $250.00)
"The 2.5L diesel engine uses a Denso 10PA17 seven cylinder, recipricating wobble plate-type compressor

Fuel Filter


Fuel Filter Raycor R20S or R20T (2 micron or 10 micron) from Neil Person @ Sydney Filter Services (tel 9672 719) about $ 60 from memory
Fuel filter assembly is a raycor spin on series 230
Alternative fuel filter: Ryco Z625

Headlights

Narva Part no. 72086 ( H4 200 *142 mm high/low beam insert)

Battery

Battery: DIN65L (various brands)

Glow Plugs

I have one old one that came from the factory:-
Marked on the plug 0 250 202023 11V
The box from VM is marked "4 607 2003 F candeletta 12V"
HKT Corporation brand (made in Japan) the Part is HKT No. B-086

(repco) ch163 $34
bosch 0250-202-023 11v between $49 and $55 auto pro and most other part shops
ngk y-923-u $66 auto pro etc
hkt corp b-086 $23.50 every body sells these from small diesel workshops to the big boys

to change your plugs make sure you have a long reach 10 mm socket access to a compressor and some high temp anti sieze compound , you need compressd air to blow all the dust and crap away from the plug seats (before you take the plugs out) and just put a smear of anti sieze on the threads of the new plugs before you put them in you only have to take the oil fill cap off to access plug number 2 hope this helps.


Turbo

The Turbo is made by IHI. Type RHB5, VA59 core. Other RHB5 models were used on Subarus, Mazda MX6s.

Starter Motor

Starter Motor is also Bosch...Part No. 0 001 218 177

Engine Parts

head bolts for desiel xj $50.00 each from jeep..go to vm get head bolts for a 700 series water cooled engine think they are about $15.00 each
head gaskets jeep $ nearly $400.00...vm price $186.00
copper injector seals go to any injection service shop they are bosch injectors
$1.60 each
Tension pullys for fan belt use same as VN Commodore just put 4 washers behind them
Fan belt: Dayco 8PK2190 (or 8PK2200 fitted mine) Gates fan belt... 8pk2190 for $58 (Auto Pro) Jeep item 9 314693 435249
Thermostat: Dayco DT32A
Idler pulley: Dayco 131081. ( same as various fords and holdens) alternative idler: Nuline EP-049 and EP-050 ( www.precisionparts.com.au)
Harmonic Balancer: Nuline HB1482-N
replaced all cooling hoses whe i did engine change out worked out you can use following hoses heater hoses from nissan pulsar commodore and ford laser the only one you cant get is the J shaped 1 from oil cooler to water pump.
Top hose CH3535 - 52079690...Bottom hose CH3534 - 52028407
Water Pump : Truflow TF8210 Available from Repco - Trade Price approx $140

Engine Mounts..... Rh/ a5310....... Lh/ 5308.......
Gearbox Mount..... A5306

Manifold Gasket
From VM (MTU Detroit in Sydney)
part 2 202 2078 F $35 approx

1.4mm head gasket
From VM (MTU Detroit in Sydney)
Part 2 202 2182 F $50 approx

Snorkel

XJ Turbo Diesel Snorkels made by Airflow

http://www.sunshinecoastjeepclub.com...l_SV300055.jpg

Been given this link by Vince in the UK who is on the NAXJA site. He was shocked at the re-build prices you are paying and said this place is what he uses.
http://ccgi.vmspecialists.plus.com
He said he paid $3600 AUD for a full re-built exchange engine. The site also lists some parts that might be worth for you guys to bring over as seem much cheaper than what you have been quoting.
http://ccgi.vmspecialists.plus.com/r...74464416becd46

Just came across this guy that had done his own turbo conversion and intercooler fitment on a Cruiser using formed alloy bends. Thought it might be of some use to you guys that have to pay so much for replacement hoses?
http://stores.ebay.com.au/performanc...QQftidZ2QQtZkm
This is where he bought them from above.
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/i...11392;start=50
http://www.ozsigns.com/aussie/fj80to...rbo/index.html
Here is the write up on it.
http://www.ozsigns.com/aussie/fj80to...oolerpipes.JPG
http://www.ozsigns.com/aussie/fj80to...rcooler_10.jpg

Exhaust
Dump pipe is attached to the back of the turbo using Torx head bolts. Tha C*********nts!!
Recommended way to remove is detach at tail end, then remove all bits above the turbo. Unbolt the oil feed line, take care not to lose the copper washers. Drop the turbo off the headers by the three bolts to the headers.

You will need to cut/grind a ring spanner to 3.5/4mm thick to fit it over the rear stud and onto the nut.
These nuts do not appear to be hardened at all so BE CAREFUL not to burr them.
Then the turbo should drop and be able to shift it so you can get the Torx bolts out.

I would recommend if you have the $$$ to do it, custom headers and intake elbow, to allow turbo to be shifted forwards/higher, allowing a better flow dump pipe, with much easier access.

Or in the first place, dont go bouncing your dump pipe off rocks and truck tyres!!

Thanks guys got rid of the jeep filter. put in a CAV filter/seperator with a
inline primer bulb out of an outboard fuel line works perfectly.
cav filter $65.00
fuel hose $ 7.00
2x hosetails $11,80
primer bulb $10.95
4x hoseclamps $10.80

Grand total of $105.55

some may say rough some may shake their heads but back on the road in less than a week and not a fortune spent Bloody miracle for my jeep.

Heres some pictures of the filter set up. the idea for the primer came from a
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td hoses
 

the water pump was incorrect the manufacturers in japan put the wrong pump in the boxes so there is still no stock in australia

with regards to the hoses here is a full list to change every hose on a td

hose (a) ch 1672 dia 19 one end dia 16 the other cost 9.00 this one jeep quoted 65.00 for

hose (b) ch 1614 dia 19 used this cos my local autopro didnt have a universal 19 in stock you can use the leftover to go to the overflow bottle but straight dia 19 hose will fit without any probs

hose (c) ch 1647 dia 16 the other end can be kept as a spare for the heater hose that goes into the firewall

hose (d and e ) ch 1647 dia 16

hose (f ) ch 1652 dia 19 one end dia 16 the other heater hose by firewall g and h oil cooler hoses dia 16

top rad hose ch 3535 45.00
bottom rad hose ch 3534 43.00

small vent hoses dia 8 of the roll

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Hi

There are some useful downloads, probably the best collection on the the net.

http://www.greatlakesxj.com/tech.html

The parts catalogs at greatlakes include info on diesels, though some of the numbers have been modified.

Lundgh.com has some use full stuff, though it is again an american site so little on the diesel engine.

If you are willing to part with some bucks there are several sites you can down load from. If I find anything else will keep you posted

Downloadable VM engine manual
 

Hi

I have a huge data base of files on the Cherokee and yes Cherokee the GreatLakes site has proved a great source. I have found no earlier than 1999 in pdf or cd format that covers the VM. Lots of info for Gilda though of petrol engines ;)

However do not dispair, I have found a seprate file that may help.
Click here for the link VM Diesel, don't panic it is in english; although on a Russian site. I am not sure if it was lifted from a complete file.

Hope this helps.

Just as passing thought if the fix you have does not work, check your water sedometer, drain it and change it if you have not done, or do not know when it was last done. I have known this to stop a diesel. I suspect it is most likely a electrical fault as already suggested, such as a fuel injection pump it self.

Just to confirm Kyro Rock Munki intial thread #1 - GLOW PLUGS HKT B-086 is correct as listed. HKT glow plug catalouge lists this as (for 98 XJ TD 2.5) HKT B-081 This is INCORRECT. B-086 is correct and matches in cross ref to Bosh 0250-202-023 11v.

Hi,

For an XJ diesel clutch hydraulics..

You could try this on amazon. says $US170
Haven't bought one but it looks like the right thing :-)

Hi,
I just bought 1997 grand Cherokee 2.5 turbo diesel,few days a go the engine could not run due to the glow plug.Could you inform me where to find the BOSCH 0250-202-023-11 V? I need 4 pieces.Since I live in Jakarta-Indonesia,email of supplier will much appreciated.Thk's

Hi,
Glow plugs from any diesel service centre, Try Detroit diesel.

Limp home modes include

10% torque reduction
50% torque reduction
and fixed 1100 rpm

Maybe your temperature sensor is no good? Maybe stuck in cold start mode with no turbo boost?

If you are lucky you may be able to get the odometer to read out the fault codes. I think it is switch to ign (but not start) then back off 3 times then leave with ign on but not started. If you have the right model the odo will read out some codes.

PM me with your snail mail address if you want me to send a CD with the service & diagnostic manuals.

Cheers

Fan Belt replaced with Dayco 8PK2190, available from Repco for $60, some $200+ less than the local dealer was charging.

Hi Cherokee
I got a replacement serpentine belt, as a spare for around £30.00, and I have seen them on ebay.co.uk

And another site, re original post for stuff on XJs though not diesel specifically
is Billa Vista, though I could not find any Mickey Mouse ears ...............:)

XJ TD Screen Washer Motor
 

The windscreen washer finally gave up. So time to do a replacement, er no not when the Jeep dealer wanted £60 off me ( Series 1 washer). :wall: I had a real problem trying to locate one here in the UK. Crown Automotive does not do them, who I import from, and I did not want to second hand.
Once removed, carefully preserving washer between washer unit and screenwash bottle, I remembered I had seen the motor in a catalouge. So I phoned up a local supplier and got washer motor for a Neon/Voyager, pictured below.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...h_NeonPump.jpg

Unlike the Jeep unit the Chrysler's head is held to the motor unit by two screws. Once I had removed these, I set about taking the XJs unit apart. This is held together by rivets, you will have to drill these out. Pull off the washer and impeller. Swap the complete unit top section over, put on the black washer, then the impeller, it will only fit one way. Then line up the top section, use the Chrysler screws, but do not over tighten. The result is below.
Total cost, £15 GBP and two cups of coffee. Use original washer it is a better fit to bottle.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...umpRebuild.jpg

Oh Yeah Happy Blooming Christmas. Penguin

Fan belt 8PK2188 was the belt that fitted my '96 (97 model in Aus) Diesel Sport (metal pulleys + no AC).

Air Conditioner

Air conditioner parts (non genuine but good) and repairs can be found at J.M Auto Air Campsie (NSW) (02) 9718 2209. (they also have the exact same unit as the diesel cost me $250.00)
"The 2.5L diesel engine uses a Denso 10PA17 seven cylinder, recipricating wobble plate-type compressor

VRS Gasket Kit: VM Part #12032193F (this contains pretty much everything *except* the head gasket)

Injector removal uses specialist VM tool (part # VM1012A), this has a notch on it for the wiring on injector 1. If you can't obtain this tool (that's everyone!), a 28mm deep shafted socket in the impact range (chrome moly)(black socket) does the trick, you may have to cut the wiring in the middle and rejoin/solder afterwards though.

Hey guys, just a quick question. On the first post here it says that a Ryco A1332 air filter will fit a 2.5 diesel cherokee.
I had a look on the Ryco site and there is says that the filter is for a petrol cherokee and not the diesel. The dimension of the air filter on the Ryco website is 170 x 343 mm where the dimensions of the diesel airbox are roughly 140 x 220 mm.
Any thoughts?
Will the valvoline and purolator fit or should i just go to Jeep and buy an original one? What do you guys buy?

Thanks

Before you place a spanner on these bolts/studs, spray with Bolt Off (in a blue labeled aerosol. We also use it to remove felt pen marks on goods/shelves )and leave for half an hour. We sell it out here in Emerald so should be available most places. Save drilling out a broken stud. G-r-r-r-r-r #@*!

Dave0085 : try Hammond 4x4 centre, they also sell lots of hard to find jeep parts!

Penguin, I will find my receipt for mine and give you a contact! Was $185 though!

Got mine FROM MASCOTMOTORS IN Nowra nsw

penguintas

Jeep Parts
Unit 4/ 30 Mc Cotter St, Acacia Ridge QLD 4110
(07)**3273**6451



he is a small jeep and jag wreckers,
and gets parts cheeper then hammonds, infact nearly everyone is cheeper then hammonds, but they can get fiddly stuff.
Check elswhere first and compare prices

Hi Everyone,

Chasing a Clutch Kit for 99 XJ Diesel. we have a number off Jeep : 04864835AB - can anyone confirm?

Whats a Spigot, pilot or Release Bearing? We are being told its seperate to the actual Clutch Kit...

thanks
Mike

there are usual two kits available:

with or without release bearing. But it is stupid not to replace the release bearing while at it.
the release bearing does transmit the force you put on the pedal to release the clutch via the release fork.
It does sit directly begind the tranny in front of the clutch assembly.
Yes and it the thing usually making noise when worn.

there is another tiny non metric(!) bearing( called pilot bearing) inside the flywheel you should replace that too to avoid future trouble.
The only problem is this bearing is hidden behind 5 stretchable bolts which have to be replaced every time and they aren't cheap.

A good kit contains the clutch cover, clutch disc and release bearing assembly
usually they are made by Sachs and sold under various brand names.
can't tell you the jeep number- to expensive anyway. Just make sure to lube the spline very slightly of the transmission with a special high temperature grease designed for that purpose.

7 days to
swear buy the stuff
i have seen inside engines that use it from new
still look lik new
how do i know so much i work there

z9 will only fit a petrol yuo need the correct filter

Go to Google - greatlakes xj.com I'm sure that will be a good help.

David

Awesome, thanks that's going to help heaps.
Ed

Fuel filter
 

Hi every one.

I am relatively new on here.

Just wanted to share my experience in trying to get Racor R20T filter elements out of the USA.
I contacted an ebay seller, 6573patricia & asked if they could supply 3 filters. They replied that they could & the price would be aprox $A110 including postage. $36.67 per filter sounded good so I proceeded. After about 35 days of no show I disputed it with paypal. 2 weeks later they credited me for the transaction. A total waste of nearly 2 months !! I see that 6573patricia is still listing R20S filter elements on ebay & offers the R20T as well. My experience is to stay well clear of that ebay seller. They trade as TDS Industries LLC. If any one is thinking of using them, may I suggest that based on my experience best keep away from them.
I hope this post saves some other members some time & grief.

Starter Motor

Starter Motor is also Bosch...Part No. 0 001 218 177

Bosch no longer make this starter motor has been relpaced by
part No. 0 001 218 777

This is probably a useful link for VM approved companies in Australia

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/04/03/01/elCentriMondo.jsp

Thanks to DW !!

I just posted a positive testimonial for Arco Pistons in Lithuania. I purchased a #1 injector from them.
They appear to be good for VM parts.

arcopistons@yahoo.com , ED was the guy I communicated with.

not sure if this is in here somewhere but:
bosh Injector Pump seal kit:
BOSH No. 2 467 010003.
it cost me $30

Just had my Injectors serviced I reckon the best Diesel Injector service guys in the Sydney's Norwest by NORWEST DIESEL SERVICES
02 9659 0096

Headgasket and bolts
 

Just bought a headgasket set and the bolts in EBAY.CO.UK at a member called "shirley9293" or "The Gasket Shop". 280NZ$ all together (incl. shipping to NZ). Very fast delivery (less than a week) and very friendly and competent staff.

The Kiwi price would have been over 1,300NZ$ at Chrysler!!!!

Highly recommended

Thomas

Oil Pressure Sender Unit for VM 2.5TD is 56041506AA