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lovemewrangler 20-02-2009 01:24 PM

TJ Gearbox oil - i want an answer : )
 

I have done heaps of searches on this with no real answer, so ive put up a poll to see what the majority of people are using, i have just bought some castrol mutitrax but want to find out if anyone has used it wihtout problems... this is for the 5 speed box by the way..

ian 20-02-2009 01:30 PM

whatever is on sale! gearbox oil is gearbox oil, dont need any fancy shi t

lovemewrangler 20-02-2009 01:33 PM

i thought so, so many people have been going on about oils other than redline fookin your gbox im just a bit worried...

bonza 20-02-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian (Post 943705)
whatever is on sale! gearbox oil is gearbox oil, dont need any fancy shi t

thats real good advice, not.

for 5 speed transmissions Castrol multitrax or if a ax15 gearbox, engine oil

but agree fancy boutique oils tend to be over rated except for extreme conditions

I use the MOPAR Manual Transmission Lubricant part number 04874464.
but thats because because I have a six speed which seems fussy about lube and dont know enough about the affects on this transmission with after market equivalents and only need to change it every 50K's

I wouldn't just put any shi t in, even in my whipper snipper.

ian 20-02-2009 01:50 PM

ok.. if you think its not good advice.. thats cool.. but his 5 speed is an ax15 and are an old style 5 speed box.. there is no need to spend big bucks on oil for it.... you would be just wasting your money.. spend less and change it more often..

lovemewrangler 20-02-2009 01:54 PM

oh ok, so its only the newer 6 speeds which require this rare exotic gearbox oil refined by monks in the bottom of volcanoes in siberia?

bonza 20-02-2009 01:58 PM

thats about right. if you have the old ax15, a plain old sae 30 engine oil will do. have heard if you use a gearbox specific oil in these transmissions, it chews out the alloy in the synchros.

for the other 5 speeders, Castrol Multitrax.

lovemewrangler 20-02-2009 02:03 PM

well how the fook do i know whaty i have in my 2002 wrangler? i thought it was a NVsomethingorother

ian 20-02-2009 02:18 PM

well thort yours was a 99..lol

Jeff 20-02-2009 02:19 PM

2002 has a NV3550. I put Multitrax in there, hasnt blown up yet.

Remember kiddies - it's not what oil you use, it's how often you change it that counts...

lovemewrangler 20-02-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 943732)
2002 has a NV3550. I put Multitrax in there, hasnt blown up yet.

thanks Jeff, thats what i was after...

giki 21-02-2009 01:19 AM

Wat about XJ,s 4 speed auto. Might do mine soon.

Adrian D 26-02-2009 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian (Post 943722)
ok.. if you think its not good advice.. thats cool.. but his 5 speed is an ax15 and are an old style 5 speed box.. there is no need to spend big bucks on oil for it.... you would be just wasting your money.. spend less and change it more often..

I used some cheap oil in my ax15. Almost couldn't shift into second when the gearbox was cold. Changed if for Redline MT90 and it made a big diffrence.

bonza 26-02-2009 06:23 AM

useful lube specs about Wrangler transmissions here, includes all the different transmissions including autos

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489932

Duk 26-02-2009 06:47 AM

Used Castrol for years but changes were "chunky". Last change went to Redline which has improved the smoothness of the change - have the AX15 box -

Whats cheaper - a decent oil or a new box ... . . .

Sheeds 11-03-2009 09:36 AM

Did my ax15 gear box yesterday with Royal Purple Synchromax and it has already made quite a difference to the shifts - where first and second used to be quite stiff they are now shifting much smoother

bonza 11-03-2009 11:03 AM

from what I understand the ax5 and ax15 gearboxes require a GL3 oil.

therefore according to Royal Purple and other Jeep forums a straight 10w-40 engine oil should be used in these transmissions in lieu of Synchromax, otherwise the synchros will slowly destroy themselves.

Sheeds 11-03-2009 12:01 PM

Agree about the GL3.
I researched this yesterday before getting the oil and from reading on this forum and some US sites I understand synchromax is compatible with GL3 and is used frequently in ax15 boxes

DizzyDi 12-03-2009 06:07 PM

Mechanical clutz question again ... is Redline oil fine in any gearbox? Don't know what's in my '05 TJ but I'm keen to use only the best of the best.

Tried to buy some at Repco today but they didn't have it. Where do you buy this liquid gold?

bonza 13-03-2009 06:24 AM

there's a Bursons near me that sells it.

make sure you have some gold bullion to buy it

lovemewrangler 13-03-2009 08:00 AM

i put multitrax in and gear changes a noticably alot more sticky, and i find myself grinding gears alot, ill be changing to redline soon...

rooshooter 13-03-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DizzyDi (Post 950190)
Mechanical clutz question again ... is Redline oil fine in any gearbox? Don't know what's in my '05 TJ but I'm keen to use only the best of the best.

Tried to buy some at Repco today but they didn't have it. Where do you buy this liquid gold?


Autobarn sells it .. helps if you know someone that works there, get it for cheaper cause its expensive ..

DizzyDi 13-03-2009 12:42 PM

Yikes boys, how much does it cost & how much does a girl need? Rang Autobarn & the bloke sounded like he'd never heard of it ... said they don't carry it.

RenegadeDom 17-04-2009 03:29 PM

my gear changes are pretty ordinary atm, second tends to crunch when the jeep is cold... is the verdict to go with redline gearbox oil? is there a specific type?

rooshooter 17-04-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DizzyDi (Post 950504)
Yikes boys, how much does it cost & how much does a girl need? Rang Autobarn & the bloke sounded like he'd never heard of it ... said they don't carry it.

I know for a fact autobarn sells it i have a mate that works at macgregor autobarn and i have been in there and was going to buy it from there, you need to talk to someone who is not a 17 year old knob that doesnt know what a car is but for some reason works at an automotive place ...

DizzyDi 17-04-2009 07:34 PM

Cheers Roo, I'll try again ... pimply faced 17yo knobs working in auto shops who don't know about cars sums it up very well. I always get a kick out of their expressions when they carry my stuff to the car, priceless!

Because of the last clown I ended up buying Penzoil or whatever it's called but have held off putting it in.

willow 17-04-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RenegadeDom (Post 960720)
my gear changes are pretty ordinary atm, second tends to crunch when the jeep is cold... is the verdict to go with redline gearbox oil? is there a specific type?

AX15, 5 speed (96 - 1999?) put MT90 in, or if it's a NV3550, 5 speed (2000 - whenever the 6 speed came out) put MTL.

Think the only difference in the oil is the MTL is slightly thinner for the newer 5 speed. I have MT90 in my NV3550 by accident and runs fine, at $126 for just under 4lt it can stay there a bit longer, I needed 2lt for mine.

Rodgebone 18-04-2009 09:43 PM

my two cents....Redline MTL for the NVs...Redline MT-90 for the AX-15....and Mopar ATF+4 for the AW4 Cheros

piggy 28-04-2015 12:15 PM

Ok.
(Q) How many litres for the gear box.

(Q) how many litres for transfer case.

2003 TJ 5 speed.
cheers piggy

Jeeps 28-04-2015 09:35 PM

Damn Piggy, way to bring up an old thread! Hey can I come around on the weekend and do mine too? Mine's due for an oil change... ;)

JMRR1 08-07-2015 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piggy (Post 1529338)
Ok.
(Q) How many litres for the gear box.

(Q) how many litres for transfer case.

2003 TJ 5 speed.
cheers piggy

Here you go mate.

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/knowled...capacities.htm

FWIW I bought my 1998 TJ 5-speed and it was very, very hard to shift into second when cold, and crunched when warm. I thought I was going to have to rebuild or replace the box. Changed to Redline MT-90 and within a few hundred k's the issues were gone completely.

12 months and 10,000k later... still no issues.

mangoes 05-09-2015 05:36 PM

Hey mate would the Redline MT 90 work for my 6 speed manual?

Rodgebone 05-09-2015 06:20 PM

kylemangg
Quote:

Hey mate would the Redline MT 90 work for my 6 speed manual?
use Redline MTL for the six speed. no question about it. dont put MT 90 in a six speed

JMRR1 05-09-2015 06:55 PM

Use Redline MTL for the six speed.

mangoes 05-09-2015 09:50 PM

Is there a certain spec for the mlt? Thanks for the help

JMRR1 05-09-2015 10:10 PM

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?product=50204

mangoes 05-09-2015 11:08 PM

Thanks mate!

Sheeds 30-09-2015 06:24 PM

Just re-read this thread and realised my jeep has been running royal purple in the ax15 gearbox for 6 years. Shifts are still good so the synchromax hasn't effed the synchro's after all

Cornelius 08-08-2016 12:52 PM

$109 delivered for 1 gallon of MTL off e-bay ............. not too bad I recon


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