Chinese Copy AEV Bars

[Mangler]

Originally Posted by Paul-JK

It would depend on what the lemonade would taste like after being made from those particular lemons........if powder coat is lousy and the hoop is wonky I'd be asking what else is wrong with it? Is it likely to rip itself of the front of the JK the first time you winch from it or will it fall apart through lousy welding that won't stand up to corrugations etc? What grade of steel was used in the first place? Don't think I'd be taking the risk personally.

Agree, I have a Warn front bar on my TJ, it's probably Chinese made, has shit powder coating too however it has the Warn brand behind it and I trust the recovery eyes and strength....and it has been on my shitheap for years with not a single sign of rust

[Yom]

Originally Posted by Paul-JK

It would depend on what the lemonade would taste like after being made from those particular lemons........if powder coat is lousy and the hoop is wonky I'd be asking what else is wrong with it? Is it likely to rip itself of the front of the JK the first time you winch from it or will it fall apart through lousy welding that won't stand up to corrugations etc? What grade of steel was used in the first place? Don't think I'd be taking the risk personally.

This is true. But you can pose the same questions to many of the backyard built bars people get around with and even the cheap stuff from certain popular catalogues!

[Paul-JK]

Originally Posted by Yom

This is true. But you can pose the same questions to many of the backyard built bars people get around with and even the cheap stuff from certain popular catalogues!

You're not wrong!

I guess at the end of the day the only way to be sure is to get one that's ADR approved. At least that way you know it's not so weak that it won't survive running over speed bump or equally not so rigid that it's going to have the airbags going off when you rub up against a tree. That narrows the options down a bit though.

[oldmacdonald]

ADR compliance/approval doesn't go to the strength or durability of a product. It's purely aesthetic or prescriptive things, like no sharp edges, must conform with the front of the vehicle, must not direct objects down/under the vehicle if struck.

[YankeeDave]

Originally Posted by oldmacdonald

ADR compliance/approval doesn't go to the strength or durability of a product. It's purely aesthetic or prescriptive things, like no sharp edges, must conform with the front of the vehicle, must not direct objects down/under the vehicle if struck.

Not entirerly true


ADR compliance also includes crash testing to ensure air bag activation is not effected.

You can actually have a bullbar that is too strong. In that case even small hits to the bullbar will fire your air bags. Designing a modern day bullbar means making it strong enough to take a winch or animal strike but not too strong to make your air bags go off when you hit skippy. They are actually designed to crumple during a vehicle impact. If your car does not have airbags, then you can make them as strong as you like (not smart for safetly, but you can)

I know this as i've gone through the compliance testing once already with a previous bullbar design that passed, and have another 2 bars going through in September.

[Zander]

Originally Posted by The Buzzcutter

For an example of those old European factories employing the several generations of the same family take a look at the crap that went on at places like British Leyland and then ask why everyone now drives around in Toyotas.

Not everyone mate, if it was everyone this forum wouldn't exist.

[The Buzzcutter]

Originally Posted by Zander

Not everyone mate, if it was everyone this forum wouldn't exist.

I meant everyone else - you know who I mean