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18-05-2016
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Originally Posted by Jimmyb
Shame I didnt know you were here
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lol thats a coincidence didnt expect anyone from the xj community to be over, you on holiday or live over there? i dont want to take this off topic but i was there for 30 days started in phuket then bangkok then chiang mai. not a bad excursion!
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96 XJ 2" Lift, 31" MT snorkle 12k lb winch Dana30 Lock-Right
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20-05-2016
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Originally Posted by rustynuts
Same deal here. Both my cars go to 2.5 inch after the turn out of the engine bay. . I undo the bolts that hold the exhaust flange onto the extractors and drop the pipe away. Both my transmissions and my spare had dings in those valve body pipes.
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Jeep Nerd Q bro;
did you notice one of the (AT) pipes was prominently half-crushed, like someone took a chisel and wacked it?..almost restrict flow
also both pipes were creased and dinted.
to make the pipes look like that must have been part of some manafacturing process then?..weird
Have also read on forum that 2.5" exhaust is an "upgrade"..so apart from fitting extractors, is an alternative pipe available to replace that 1st section of 2" pipe...I must confess no real interest in high rpm power, only good torque <4000 (in these vehicles)
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'96 4.0 Sport 375k+
'96 Limited 263k (unreg spare)
'96 Sport 335k (got smashed, farmtruck)
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20-05-2016
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MonsterMoose
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Originally Posted by awg
Is 2.5" exhaust standard?...mine has 2" front pipe, then 2.5" across rear sump, then all the way back
maybe that is why I had such trouble dropping trans pan to clean plus change filter ?
95FSM 1) drain ATF, 2) drop pan, 3) change filter
me..drop skid plate, crossmember, trans mount, T-mount plate!...even then had to jam it very hard to squeeze between valve body and 2.5" exhaust pipe.
furthermore, it was not possible to split the dipstick tube in situ, had to be taken out whole...ended up having to clamp lower tube in a vice, and work the upper section with so much force, that breaking off the lower tube from sump in situ with no helper was my valid concern
noticed the 2 small crossover pipes to the valve body were very battered, which was puzzling, either the sump has taken a smashing hit & been replaced, or someone has removed them with brutal stupidity, presumably for OH work (has over 300k)
2 hour job turned into about 6 hours
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2.5" is not standard....
The dipstick tube is two piece, the join is just above the bend (pre-updates at least), this is a tight joint with an O-ring seal, it is removable by working it in a rotataing fashion whilst having tension on it.
I've not noticed any "damage" on the internal pipework on any I've seen...
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The dipstick tube is two piece, the join is just above the bend (pre-updates at least), this is a tight joint with an O-ring seal, it is removable by working it in a rotataing fashion whilst having tension on it.
I've not noticed any "damage" on the internal pipework on any I've seen...[/QUOTE]
For the dipstick tube I put rubber grease on the O-ring when assembling, then wrap silicone rescue tape around the joint to keep dirt out. Makes it easier to separate when dropping the pan.
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20-05-2016
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Originally Posted by awg
Jeep Nerd Q bro;
did you notice one of the (AT) pipes was prominently half-crushed, like someone took a chisel and wacked it?..almost restrict flow
also both pipes were creased and dinted.
to make the pipes look like that must have been part of some manafacturing process then?..weird
Have also read on forum that 2.5" exhaust is an "upgrade"..so apart from fitting extractors, is an alternative pipe available to replace that 1st section of 2" pipe...I must confess no real interest in high rpm power, only good torque <4000 (in these vehicles)
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I don't think dinged pipes are standard. I think the pipes get easily dinged by people trying to remove the pan with the exhaust in the way. I think the previous owners and mechanics cause it as the pan nearly clears so they try to maneuver it around and the pipes are quite soft and easily damaged.
Well both my cars exhausts are how you describe yours. I will take a pic tomorrow for comparison. Both my cars exhaust pipes look identical so I think it is factory.
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Originally Posted by rustynuts
I don't think dinged pipes are standard. I think the pipes get easily dinged by people trying to remove the pan with the exhaust in the way. I think the previous owners and mechanics cause it as the pan nearly clears so they try to maneuver it around and the pipes are quite soft and easily damaged.
Well both my cars exhausts are how you describe yours. I will take a pic tomorrow for comparison. Both my cars exhaust pipes look identical so I think it is factory.
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thats a feasible explanation..there was me imagining a little Japanese man in the factory, twisting those little pipes just so..
My exhaust does not look aftermarket either, begs the question why you would have a 2.5" exhaust with that restrictive section at the front, unless clearance issues exist
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'96 4.0 Sport 375k+
'96 Limited 263k (unreg spare)
'96 Sport 335k (got smashed, farmtruck)
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21-05-2016
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MonsterMoose
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Originally Posted by awg
thats a feasible explanation..there was me imagining a little Japanese man in the factory, twisting those little pipes just so..
My exhaust does not look aftermarket either, begs the question why you would have a 2.5" exhaust with that restrictive section at the front, unless clearance issues exist
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If yours is a 96 as you have listed then it wouldn't have been 2.5" from the factory, they were only around 2" stock, I can't comment on the update models as I have only had pre-updates....
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