Problems with Ironman Lift, 2014 WK2

[drover]

Originally Posted by Nanook

Bulldog2516,

Just as a comparison, with my Ironman lift, my ride height is:

534mm at the front from the centre of the wheel cap to the bottom edge of guard.

The rear is 550mm.

That's with the rear empty and the front having constant load springs with an Ironman Bull Bar, winch and Uneek 4x4 Bash plates.

So that matches what a 40mm lift should be, thats just the info I needed for investigating my changes which I'm getting keen to do mine as the front has sagged heaps........ buy the struts pre made so it will be no drama to swap em out and hoping the rear will be just as easy....

[Russc0123]

My Bilstein and King set up sits at 530 front and 545 rear.
Before the lift my car sat at 470 front and 512 rear.

[jeepsgofaster]

Since your happy with the ride maybe a set of 20mm spacers in the rear might be an option.

The engine and transmission will in the long term squash your front springs, I don't mean in the settling in period, long term. The high rate springs will resist this for much longer and have some advantages under heavy braking and holding your suspension up higher in its travelling which usually results in a better ride quality.

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[jeepsgofaster]

Originally Posted by Nanook

Ride is very subjective. With my Ironman lift I wish it was harder. It's better now with the constant load springs with such a heavy front end, but I'd love it to be a lot stiffer to stop some of the body roll.

Might be worth looking into heavier sway bars for body roll control. Doing it with spring rates risks loosing your ride quality.

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[jeepsgofaster]

Originally Posted by Russc0123

I don't know about Ironman but I just had Bilstein shocks and King springs fitted to mine and initially my vehicle lifted 65mm in the front and rear. Over the past month they've settled and I now have have 50mm lift in front and 40mm in rear which looks good compared to the stock rake. (The front is still lower than the rear but not as much as normal. The gap above the tyre to the guard matches now.)



I'm glad you're happy with the driving comfort as I am not overly impressed. At first I accepted it was firmer but over the past month I've come to realise I am not really happy with it. I am going to look into other options like removing the Bilstein shocks and putting the old ones back in but keeping the new king springs. Hopefully this will give me more on-road comfort but with the lift I like.

Has anyone else fitted raised springs with the standard shocks? How did they like it?

No specific experience with a wk2 but I think your all over it, sounds like shock valving in your case.

Your std shock idea is a good one but as you've alluded to there could be issues with where in the stroke they end up with the lift.

Another option is foam cell shocks. Foam cell shocks for the most part rely more heavily on rebound control and when you couple that with the fact they don't run a positive gas charge (which arguably adds more compression hardness over minor bumps) they give a much smoother ride than gas shocks if you have good springs

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[Nanook]

Originally Posted by jeepsgofaster

Might be worth looking into heavier sway bars for body roll control. Doing it with spring rates risks loosing your ride quality.

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To be honest, I never thought of that. I might have to do some research.

[Bulldog2516]

Thanks for all the input. So still no change in the height. I jacked up the Jeep to measure suspension drop and have only 30mm front and about 90mm in the rear. Thinking a front spring swap is in order. I’m also getting strut top out over some speed bumps and on the way in abs out of the Stockton sand dunes. Is strut top out a significant issue or just an annoyance?

Next question, I pulled up the iron man catalogue and noticed this kit is marked as to be used with nivomat rear shocks only. Do the nivomat and standard rear shocks use the same relocation bracket? If not, I suspect this is why they were not installed. Now why they sold and installed the kit in the first place is the real question.

Thanks.


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