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Old 23-03-2009
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Not sure if I understand the lingo being from an XJ background.

Do you mean that the accelerator is close to the firewall and the brake pedal is up high in comparison to the position of the accelerator?
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Just sounds similar to many Yank and some Japanese vehicles.

Most Euro makes the relationship between brake and throttle are close to the same level for safety, and ultimately better driving comfort.

The first time you drive a vehicle that requires you to lift up off the throttle to get to the brake it is very very obviously not ideal, however, like said above you do get used to it.

Whilst the Range Rover (classic, mine was a 1993 vogue plus with air suspension) is not the best example as it's throttle is a bit below the brake, where they are good is very long throttle travel, it could be mistaken for being different as you get close to the floor, but in fact it is not, it is just that you need to move the throttle a long way to get a much smaller movement at the throttle body, you soon get used to this in the cabin and when off road particularly going slow in the very rough it means you can hit a bump that bounces you and your throttle foot, but does not jerk the car as you need to push the throttle pedal a long way to effect the car. An excellent feature. The XJ on the other hand if you are going over very rough county takes quite a bit of concentration not to jerk the throttle, you need to be ever ready to lift if you hit a bump.
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with fuel efficiency and everything to do with Chrysler Jeep lack of attention to detail. The KK was built more for driving than off-roading anyway. Even though I like them they’re just a Dodge Nitro with low range from what I read. I lock my foot against the scuttle trim when in low range no worries in the XJ and I think a peddle more difficult to reach is worse...!
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i have never had any issues with throttle control in the low range stuff with the KJ but i got used to the position of the throttle compared to the brake after a week or so
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I believe the concept is. In autos, The Brake pedal when applied is to be above the idle position of the accellerator as a safety, so as your foot is unable to apply pressure to both pedals at the same time, because the trottle will always win, and then you crash.


BUT, correct me if I'm wrong, but, with the "Drive by wire", Isn't there a safety that detects both are applied and gives bias to the brakes??????
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Interesting point you make. I have actually seen a person aply both and bang into a parked garage....
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I have now had my new KK for a week now (previously had an XJ) and I must say I almost don't notice it now.. go figure
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