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One of the rails had 2.5 degrees of twist in the end of the rail. So removed it by holding the rail in the press, bolting an old piece of channel to one of the existing holes in the frame where the twist was, then bouncing my whole body weight on the end of the channel. Came straight out.
Simple but effective.


This is the point where the front of the Grands engine and suspension cradle will bolt on underneath. It needed to be 226mm, so need to raise the frame to match.


Used a triangle calculator, http://www.smex.net.au/Reference/TriangleCalc.htm to quickly workout how many degrees the bend, where it comes up from under the cab, needed to increase. Only needed just over 2 degrees which turned out to be a cutoff saw blade width.


Line was scribed halfway in the curve and a right angle to it, then cut stopping an inch short of the flange. The reason I do it this way is that the bend in the lower flange will remain smoother and no obvious change will be seen. If you don't have a press, then can stop just before the flange and just pull the cut closed by hand.


The cut was fully bevelled so full penetration will take place when it is welded back up. Then placed in the press to close the gap. Needed very little pressure and didn't distort the web of the channel.


I tacked it while still in the press to stop it moving when the pressure was released.


Got it right where I wanted.


I have some rust repairs to do where the rail kicks up before the rear axle. Doesn't look too bad but there is a pin hole all the way through at one point.


Both rails have it in the exact same spot as dirt gathered behind the cross member and stiffening plate that was riveted in here. Only the stiffening plate itself suffered rust as well, but going to be replaced with a full length boxing plate anyway. I will cut this away, then do the kick up in the same spot before welding in a replacement section of frame.
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OK, getting on with it a bit more.


Finally feel I'm in the construction phase now as got my first bottle of gas for my mig I bought three years ago. First weld out of the gun welding up the rail where it was bent upwards. Gave good penetration all the way through so not bad first up. Have put the old arc welder I have been using up until now in the corner.


Cleaned up the weld a bit. Will do a better job later on. Just need to make fish plates for the back of the joins.


Cutting out the rusted section in the rear kick up now
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Sigh.... all those years ago at high school... "GEOMETRY....Who needs it?"

Lookin good there Gojeep...

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through that old arc.
Just got a inverter mig/tig/arc weighs a tenth of the old arc pick it up with one hand.
Just built a trailer with gasless wire, wont be going back to arc.
Gas is the way to go for clean neat welds.
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My old arc weighed a heap as was a full copper core and not the cheaper aluminium cores from China. Must better duty cycle. Have never used an inverter type.
My mig is the older Unimig Workshop series without all the electronic controls as prefer it that way. 100% duty cycle at 210 amps and will go all the way to 270 amps.
Big as though!
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The old days, when things were simple. Machines I done my apprenticeship on only had a couple of controls.
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This is my starting height where the rail sits over the rear axle centreline. Looking at gaining 100mm or 4" to match the height it was stock on the Grand Cherokee.


The first bend will be where the rust was cut away. So the flat section on the floor is what goes under the cab before kicking up over the axle.


Decided to just press the first bend seeing I already had so much cut away. Calculated I needed a 7.5* increase. Can already see the change in height. Now have to bend the rear section so it is parallel once again with the ground.


So cut out a 7.5* wedge out of the frame.


Worked out rather well


Showing penetration on the back side of the weld. The round bit off the the side was the old hole in the rail.


Left welding the flange as had rusted out above where the bump stop was.


Cut the section out and made it a little longer to remove some of the holes at the same time.


Cut a piece to fit and hammered in a matching curve. Brought back memories of my Blacksmith/Farriering days of my youth.


Getting used to the welder. First pass on the right was too hot so turned it down a touch for the other two passes.
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