End of Fueled vehicles

[humdingerslammer]

Originally Posted by LeCheese

Might be time to steer clear of the inflammatory, conspiracist stuff and get back to talking about Jeeps hey

What conspiracist theories.... it's all true I tell you!! We have emus here. I don't think they are like ostriches and bury their heads in sand when things get a bit stressful. More people should speak up rather than be deniers of the obvious.

[SouthernComfort]

Originally Posted by LeCheese

Might be time to steer clear of the inflammatory, conspiracist stuff and get back to talking about Jeeps hey

"Conspiratorial and inflammatory stuff" is just another (albeit opposing) opinion. Had you simply said "how about we get back to talking about Jeep's?" I for one might have agreed with you!

[LeCheese]

Originally Posted by SouthernComfort

"Conspiratorial and inflammatory stuff" is just another (albeit opposing) opinion. Had you simply said "how about we get back to talking about Jeep's?" I for one might have agreed with you!

By definition, those are pretty objective descriptors of the post’s content.

The point remains: this isn’t a political forum or a personal social media account, so let’s avoid the divisive stuff and focus on Jeeps.

[humdingerslammer]

Originally Posted by LeCheese

Clickbait beat up from the Daily Mail

Actually the position of the NRMA from what I can see is exactly that: nothing but EVs from 2030 with no new petrol cars after that. I can't see how this is a "beat up" by the Daily Mail which has simply reported on what is the NRMA's widely stated and published position and many times over. In reality the NRMA has done a pretty extensive job on its own beat up in this regard.

There is always a danger of biting off more than can be chewed and I think that planned timetables etc for EVs are way too ambitious.

On the point of talking only Jeep on this forum, since when was this the case? Are Jeep owners/drivers not allowed to present a viewpoint as they see fit, and on this forum. Gee, there are any number of posts that have little to do with Jeeps that I have read over the years. Probably added to as well, for which I do not apologise. Many of them are great posts. Stimulating and enlightening.

I tend to think that going with the flow is a good way of operating in the world, and a healthy tongue in cheek attitude helps a lot too. Creeping censorship of what ever type ought to be brought to the fore and rejected.

Also, re: "By definition, those (conspiracist and inflammatory) comments are pretty objective descriptors of the post’s content.

The point remains: this isn’t a political forum or a personal social media account, so let’s avoid the divisive stuff and focus on Jeeps."

I think they are very subjective descriptors: there is nothing objective about them and why should there be? Notwithstanding imperfect prose, I think members have responded as best they can to bring forward their points of view. This I think should always be encouraged regardless of who may object. We still live in a country with free speech and liberal democratic principles underpinning our society. Disagreement breeds strength: it doesn't mean that it is necessarily "divisive".

Just adding a bit more to my tuppence worth. Nah, probably 2 bob's worth by now!!

[drover]

Since I have followed the flying cars, the Wankel will take over the world and no child will live in poverty and many other declarations I treat them all with the same , "See it and I'll believe it" ................ Not saying it won't happen but if it does while I'm still around I will be surprised, the planners and designers of it all have a narrow view of the world and governments will procrastinate for decades, plenty of talk and committees will ensure they pass on the hard decisions...... In a country that relies on the automobile, references to Europe is useless besides how many could afford to change to a new vehicle be it EV or ICB .............

Stuff it all, I wanta new boat.

[SouthernComfort]

All EV's from 2030?, pure fantasy.

We won't even have the crumbling power supply issue sorted by then, by which I mean building enough proper power stations, not the windmills & solar rubbish that can barely run a 40w light bulb. Look at the panic in Europe now they've woken up to reality, they can't build power stations fast enough.

[drover]

I see in the paper up here Maleny is crowing about how EV's are flocking to visit the town as they 6 charging stations, with comments about how you can stop plug in and then spend the hour or 2 having a coffee in the town.... out of luck if your number 7 then.