coujo55

[rack201]

They can't stop you providing your own oil, but what actually ends up in your Jeep vs. in the mechanic's garage at home is another story!

[GlugGlug]

Originally Posted by rack201

They can't stop you providing your own oil, but what actually ends up in your Jeep vs. in the mechanic's garage at home is another story!

Errrr, watch them?

[rack201]

Just showing my cynicism.. If you can afford to sit around waiting and your dealer/mechanic is happy to have you looking over their shoulder, then good for you..


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[coujo55]

thanks everyone for your comments , because it will be my first service I will be going with the dealer service but will be asking lots of questions re oil type , brand . specs etc: , I'm not one that takes everything a dealer might tell me as being gospel, cheers Tony !

[Treebreakerbob]

Originally Posted by rack201

FWIW, I just checked the invoice from my 10k service (MY14 CRD) - they used 10W 30 (Castrol Magnatec) and charged me $140 for it. I think 7 or 8 litres is needed so you can get an idea of how much you might save buying it yourself..

10W 30, supposed to be 5W 30 hmmm, that would concern me. I know some use heavier oil in toyotas to solve problems. A good thing you have kept the invoice

Bob

[Benn0]

Originally Posted by Benn0

Whats the difference between MB229.51 and MS11106? Who knows.

For those who are interested I found the details on the differences between MB229.51 and MS11106 standards:

MS-11106 compared to MB 229.51:
sulfur content limit. <0.2% vs 0.3%
Sulphated ash content <0.8% vs 0.8%
Phosphorous content <0.08% vs 0.09%
Chlorine content limit. <0.005% vs 0.015%
Pour Point requirement. -36C vs (I couldn't find the spec for this in the MB229.51 standard)
MS-11106 has stricter limits on Foam Tendencies tests (I couldn't find the spec for this in the MB229.51 standard)
MS-11106 has an additional ASTM D6335 test for High Temp Deposits 30mg max
MS-11106 has an additional ASTM D7097 test for Medium High Temperature Deposits(TEOST) 25mg max

And a list from the jeep garage thread:
Havoline Fully Synthetic C3 5W-30 (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3 / MB-229.51 Approved)
Nulon Full Synthetic 5W-30 Diesel Formula Long Life Engine Oil (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3, MB-229.51)
Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30 (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3, MB-229.31 & MB-229.51)
Castrol Magnatec Diesel DX 5W-40 (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3)
Castrol EDGE 0W-40 (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3)
Castrol EDGE 5W-30 FST (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3 / MB-229.31 & MB-229.51 Approved)
Castrol Edge Professional OE-X 5W-30 (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3, MB-229.31, MB-229.51)
Fuchs Titan GT1 PRO C-3 SAE 5W-30 Premium Synthetic (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3 / MB-229.51 Approved)
Shell Helix Ultra ECT 5w-30 Fully Synthetic (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3 / MB-229.51 Approved)
Valvoline SynPower MST 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3 / MB-229.51 Approved)
Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 (Meets or Exceeds ACEA C3 / MB-229.31, MB-229.51, MS-11106 Approved)

[binalong]

Shell Helix ECT HX7 meets the Chrysler MS 11106, they also make HX5 etc which does not meet 11106, so has to be HX7 $42.95 for 5 litres at supercheep
Cheers