Can anyone identify this gearbox?

[Sprint]

Does anyone recognise the main gearbox here? I've identified the transfer as a Dana/Spicer model 18, but the gearbox has me stumped, it has no makers ID cast into it that I can find, but as a model 18 transfer and what looks like a Jeep park brake drum, I figured I'd ask the Jeep community....

It came into my possession with no details as to what it was fitted to, but I figure a PTO for a model 18 has gotta be a rare enough bit of kit so I snagged it.

[Shafus]

Something from an international scout

[cj3b]

is it a 3 or 4 speed gearbox??

[Mickb]

It's from a Mahindra .. which is a copy of the willys CJ3B.. the mahindras are junk .. we got a bunch of them in the late 8Os early nineties.. they had a Peugeot diesel and a Peugeot trans .. so that will be a Peugeot trans with a spicer model 18 copy .. cheers mick

[cj3b]

Originally Posted by Mickb

It's from a Mahindra .. which is a copy of the willys CJ3B.. the mahindras are junk .. we got a bunch of them in the late 8Os early nineties.. they had a Peugeot diesel and a Peugeot trans .. so that will be a Peugeot trans with a spicer model 18 copy .. cheers mick

my apologies for kinda hijacking the topic.



A Mahindra CJ is not a copy - "copy" infers they are a ripped off version.
The Mahindra CJ3's are license built, using blueprints, dies, patterns, jigs and moulds etc all supplied by Willys.

In some respects they are better than the Willys CJ3B's cobbled together in the various Aussie workshops.

DANA 44's at both ends, 2.1 litre Peugeot diesel, better clutch, Spicer T'case is the better version with the 1 1/4" shaft, P.T.O. fitted as standard, 11" drums all round, with boost on the front.
Twin tanks, decent fuel filter system to cope with our crap quality diesel.


If it is Mahindra, yes - the engine is a 4 cylinder Peugeot diesel, for it's intended purpose [agricultural use] it was fine.
Due to the gearing - they were only good for an absolute maximum of 70 to 80 klicks [70 preferable], modern highway speeds was asking for trouble and engine life was short as a result.

The gearbox used in the Mahindra is a KMT90, a 4 speed adaption [designed by KIA] of the 3 speed "T90" box as used by Willys.

All parts are easily available at decent prices [from India]


What killed the Mindie CJ's in Australia, was government bureaucracy, poor marketing and shoddy dealership organisation.

The original intention was for these CJ's to be sold to prospectors, mining companies, stations, farmers, roo shooters and the like - which is exactly where the CJ3B excels.

However, the bloke who set all this up tragically died of illness [the same bloke who designed the OKA 4wd] - and the crew who took over tarted them up and flogged them to the wrong market.

stephen

[cj3b]

Next weekend I should be able to get to my spare KMT90, T18 and P.T.O.
I will take some measurements and check casting numbers etc to see how they compare with yours.

Whereabouts did you find them?
Any other bits?

[Mickb]

Originally Posted by cj3b

my apologies for kinda hijacking the topic.



A Mahindra CJ is not a copy - "copy" infers they are a ripped off version.
The Mahindra CJ3's are license built, using blueprints, dies, patterns, jigs and moulds etc all supplied by Willys.

In some respects they are better than the Willys CJ3B's cobbled together in the various Aussie workshops.

DANA 44's at both ends, 2.1 litre Peugeot diesel, better clutch, Spicer T'case is the better version with the 1 1/4" shaft, P.T.O. fitted as standard, 11" drums all round, with boost on the front.
Twin tanks, decent fuel filter system to cope with our crap quality diesel.


If it is Mahindra, yes - the engine is a 4 cylinder Peugeot diesel, for it's intended purpose [agricultural use] it was fine.
Due to the gearing - they were only good for an absolute maximum of 70 to 80 klicks [70 preferable], modern highway speeds was asking for trouble and engine life was short as a result.

The gearbox used in the Mahindra is a KMT90, a 4 speed adaption [designed by KIA] of the 3 speed "T90" box as used by Willys.

All parts are easily available at decent prices [from India]


What killed the Mindie CJ's in Australia, was government bureaucracy, poor marketing and shoddy dealership organisation.

The original intention was for these CJ's to be sold to prospectors, mining companies, stations, farmers, roo shooters and the like - which is exactly where the CJ3B excels.

However, the bloke who set all this up tragically died of illness [the same bloke who designed the OKA 4wd] - and the crew who took over tarted them up and flogged them to the wrong market.

stephen

Oops sorry 😐 looks like I hit a nerve ... God a Kia box that would be even worse..I'm actually abit embarrassed that I knew what the box came out of and I am speaking from experience calling them junk we had one on the place I worked it only had done 25,000 Ks cause everyone hated driving it .. also the spicer model 18 in the 3B has the 1-1/4" intermediate shaft so there's no improvements there .....cheers mick