AIR LOCKER or WINCH

[TheDoc]

Ahh give the boy some hope will ya!

[ 16 July 2002, 01:11 AM: Message edited by: TheDoc ]

[Qten]

Can someone Explain the TJ Jeep 4wd Setup?

In my TJ i've got a Part time light and a FULL Time light the full time has never came on as far as i can tell and the part time is allways on when its engaged to 4H/4L.

What is the difference between the two.

Also does the jeep come with some kind of center diff lock kind of setup where its allways 50/50 drive? or does it have the usual 100% where ever traction is lost.?

[arnie]

I've had Lockers get me out of trouble and I've had the winch get me out of trouble, get both and you can't go wrong.

[Wooders]

Hey doc,
What about if you roll - you don't want to have the engine running - but the lekky will pull from the battery - even on a single battery.
OK you've got a snorkel - that hasn't prevented some idiots hydrolocking before - engine dead - eletric will pull untill your battery(s) are dead - better than no pull....
Speed - even a 2speed Hydaulic is no match for a high speed electric...
Weight - those Hydaulic wench's are fat & heavy 8itches ;)
Power steering boxes on Jeeps aren't the best sealed things - Personally I'd hate to blow the seals on my steering box again....Nope - It's Lekky ALLL THE WAY !!!

As for the TJ - it's parttime 4x4 only (hence no Fulltime 4wd light ;) )...There is no centre diff on a TJ.
ON an XJ There's also no centre diff - but the Transfer case gives either fulltime 4x4 (ie differential action) or Parttime (no differential action).....I'm no expert on the XJ box so I'll hand over the volvo boys [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[TheDoc]

Hey Wooders,

I knew someone would bring that up!!

1. If ya Roll -
i. better hope you've got well sealed batteries and the acid doesnt leak out.
ii. you're going to have to pull out the hand winch anyway to get it upright.

2. Idiots & hydrolocking
i. there's never any accounting for the idiot factor.
ii. idiots should stick to the road.
iii. everyone will laugh when the idiot gets stuck, so its all good.
iv. most times it's not in deep water that your winching out of, if it is, you've got a problem anyway you look at it.
v. cant see that it is really good to be running an electric winch underwater anyway - the hydraulic units are totally sealed.

3. Speed
i. I use a two speed hydraulic - slow for recovery, fast for realing in. For recovery work you definatly want it going slow.
ii. could use the fast setting but I'd recon that would be too fast unless you are re-winding the spool.
iii. the spool releases and the cable pulls straight out.

4. Weight
i. my OX is lighter than the Warn.
ii. also smaller
iii. and thats the big one.

5. Power steering boxes
i. can't comment on the box in the jeep...if ya recon they are leaky well that could be a problem.
ii. you MUST use synthetic auto fluid so it doesn't get hot.
iii. I carry a spare hydraulic hose... its small and stows away.

6. Battery setup
i. the last thing you need is not to have time to recharge your deep cycle so the engle wont run all night, or worse still there's no power for the electric blanket!! grrrr.... [img]smile.gif[/img]

7. Have we forgottern - most lekkys are intermittant duty cycle.

Oh Yeah,

8. Any front mounted winch is cool, but lets face it, its a fashion statement! A hand winch is essential no matter whats up front, and despite the fact that it's a bit of work, they'll get you out of far more situations.

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[ 16 July 2002, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: TheDoc ]

[TheDoc]

Oh yeah, my point to all that blurb was that JimmyB should already have a hand winch, and get the rear locker.

Plus you get that fancy compressor for blowing up your tyres.

[dxj]

Hi,

Hows this for a suggestion:-

Fit lockers to yours, get your mates to fit power winch, you carry the tirfor.

That way you mostly get through while you take pics of them stuck and winching themselves out :D :D

If you get stuck with them near, they winch you out. If you are on your own use the Tirfor.

Power winches are for when you intend getting stuck and enjoy winching out.

Hand winches plus lockers are for when you avoid getting stuck but need something that works underwater, upside down, forwards, backwards etc etc as a backup.