ESP Disable - Take two

[CrazyNuts]

I just found another use for the ESP MOD today.

When I was trying to tow someone out of some soft sand, and my vehuicle slid sideways as the recovery was on a slight angle.

The ESP/TC kicked in and got ME stuck. It decided I was out of control and all the brakes came on. This resulted in the smell of a burning clutch. Let's just say I could speak all flavours of colourful language at that stage.

******** YOU CHRYSLER AND YOUR BULLSHIT ********ING SAFETY. YOUR TURNING AN OFF-ROADER INTO A HEAP OF SHIT!!!!!

[Yom]

Originally Posted by CrazyNuts

I just found another use for the ESP MOD today.

When I was trying to tow someone out of some soft sand, and my vehuicle slid sideways as the recovery was on a slight angle.

The ESP/TC kicked in and got ME stuck. It decided I was out of control and all the brakes came on. This resulted in the smell of a burning clutch. Let's just say I could speak all flavours of colourful language at that stage.

******** YOU CHRYSLER AND YOUR BULLSHIT ********ING SAFETY. YOUR TURNING AN OFF-ROADER INTO A HEAP OF SHIT!!!!!

They didn't need electronics to do the last part. None of the manufacturers do these days..

[CrazyNuts]

So how many of you guys have done this mod so far?

What are YOUR thoughts before/after the mod?

Just interested to know.

[Stevil]

ESP Mods will be performed when warranty runs, due to hit 100 000k by June.

Steve

[carvesdodo]

And if disconnection of these items is not allowed ... does that mean the manufacturers are using ... work one day / not the next ... electronics to overcome failings in vehicle mechanical design ... and that it is govt sanctioned ???.

[JK07]

I have done this mod and works awesome.
I disable the entire ESP activation by wheel truning procedure before hitting the track but there are times when I really need to spin the tyres with lockers activated the brake assist comes into play. Thats where I trick comes handy.

Originally Posted by CrazyNuts

So how many of you guys have done this mod so far?

What are YOUR thoughts before/after the mod?

Just interested to know.

[glend]

At the risk of abuse, if considering ESP mod, better read NCOP (National Code of Practice) Version 2, Section 11: 2.6 at:

http://www.pharosalex.com.au/pages/33acs4.html

basically the new version of NCOP will ban almost any modification to a vehicle equipped by the manufacturer with ESP, ESC, etc; and will disallow disconnection of ESP, ESC, etc.

This is the direction that regulation is taking. Many may disagree (including me) but insurance companies will embrace this.

Let me be clear - I don't like the NCOP position on ESP anymore than anyone else. I have a lift which would be an illegal mod under NCOP Version 2 (because I have ESP) but which I could probably get away with under NCOP Version 1. Its the adding of that section (2.6) of "No mods if you have ESP" that is going to cause problems for people. NCOP Version 2 is still open for public comment and I would hope that the Ausjeep community would jump on the chance to try to influence a re-wording of that section.