ESP Disable - Take two

Originally Posted by glend

At the risk of abuse, if considering ESP mod, better read NCOP (National Code of Practice) Version 2, Section 11: 2.6 at:

http://www.pharosalex.com.au/pages/33acs4.html

basically the new version of NCOP will ban almost any modification to a vehicle equipped by the manufacturer with ESP, ESC, etc; and will disallow disconnection of ESP, ESC, etc.

This is the direction that regulation is taking. Many may disagree (including me) but insurance companies will embrace this.

Let me be clear - I don't like the NCOP position on ESP anymore than anyone else. I have a lift which would be an illegal mod under NCOP Version 2 (because I have ESP) but which I could probably get away with under NCOP Version 1. Its the adding of that section (2.6) of "No mods if you have ESP" that is going to cause problems for people. NCOP Version 2 is still open for public comment and I would hope that the Ausjeep community would jump on the chance to try to influence a re-wording of that section.

the insurance companies will get out of paying for what ever reason they can find let alone this new ESP guff. my car was insured till i rang to say i have 3" lift and 34" tyres, they wouldn't insure me anymore (which i thought would be the case) so i said well you'd better stop taking money out of my account then! Its no point making any mods to your car then driving around thinking your insured because if you have a stack they will go over it with a fine tooth comb to get out of paying, GEE and i thought insurance companies are there to protect us lol.

I'll have my car HOW I WISH, if i have a stack (which hasn't happened for 25yrs) i'll pay for it, my choice.

ps this is me talking out loud, im not having a go at you at all Glend.

I have to take my car to the dealer for the third time to reset the ESP computer as my alarm lights are up again! When this happened recently it appeared to reduce my accelerator and brake me, twice!
i have a lifted jeep with big tyres and when i go off road i think the computer gets all confused, so for me off road especially im going to turn it off!

JUST LET ME DRIVE THE DAM CAR COMPUTER!!! HA HA

I'll be having the Dealership upload the new software that enables me to turn ESP off with that Wheel turning procedure, if i still have trouble i have no probs performing this mod next

Good one CrazyNuts.

Question- when you switch it off im assuming all the three alarm lights stay on just to bug you

[CrazyNuts]

Originally Posted by ShortStuff

Good one CrazyNuts.

Question- when you switch it off im assuming all the three alarm lights stay on just to bug you

Unfortunately, yes. But it's not as intrusive as you may think due to their location.

Never bothered me anyway, as I only ever use it off-road.

[Yom]

NCOP isnt even regulation in any state yet is it?

[CrazyNuts]

nope, it hasn't even reached parliament yet.

[Go nutts]

The best thing i have done. Thanks

Just to ad to this, my car is still in ESP fault since May, all three lights on.
Dealer has the car again but are STILL STUMPED? The Starscan tool keeps telling them its the Front Left Wheel Sensor is at fault, they've changed it and it still says Sensor fault.

Anyway what im getting at is the 3 Fault Lights are on same as as what happens when you do this wire cutting mod but the ESP is still doing something.
When i was in 1st Gear Low Range off road and trying to slowly climb this hill the ESP was bringing on the brakes and reducing Power, so much so i had to turn around and go back down, it was that bad! It only happened on steep inclines and it didn't matter if i was going forward or reverse so there must be a sensor registering the incline.

Just wonder of those that have done this mod have they experienced any ESP interference still