WJ Long Crank Time

[bleetnblurt]

there are two earth clips located on the coils (cant remember which coil they go to) then there is the earth strap that is connected to the firewall, and the earth strap on the gearbox cross member , a faulty coil will show on the check engine as far as I know , BUT have you checked the connectors at the end of the coils ? (where the spark plug goes into ) might be a idea either to replace them (you can buy new ends) or place a little die electric grease to help them make a connection . (place a very small amount on the tip of the plug) heat will do funny things to a car , but cold does also.
does the engine "quiver" when it does its first start ?

[Siggers]

Yep, there are two coil capacitors on on each side I think.



The earth strap on the firewall infront of the driver on my car connects to the bell housing.

The gearbox cross member one is damaged, however it has been repaired.

[bleetnblurt]

inside the coil where the spark plug plugs into the coil , there is a spring type clip , these can get worn/damaged , now I read somewhere they can be replaced , I have not done as yet , so I am not sure how they come out but there should be info on this , also it helps if you get a small tube of electric grease , this helps to make a electric connection , (called die electric grease) it might go by other names , a small smear on the side of the tip of plug where it goes into the coil this will help to make a good connection . the connectors in the coil do wear , and it does help to make that fire.

[Siggers]

Originally Posted by bleetnblurt

inside the coil where the spark plug plugs into the coil , there is a spring type clip , these can get worn/damaged , now I read somewhere they can be replaced , I have not done as yet , so I am not sure how they come out but there should be info on this , also it helps if you get a small tube of electric grease , this helps to make a electric connection , (called die electric grease) it might go by other names , a small smear on the side of the tip of plug where it goes into the coil this will help to make a good connection . the connectors in the coil do wear , and it does help to make that fire.

Yes I have had the coils out, they look to be in good condition from what I can tell.

Why should I check timing? It seems a bit pointless as it was running ok, and nothing has been touched there?

I also took some voltage readings across some of the coils while the car was running, no voltage difference between the two posts of the battery and between the battery and anywhere on the motor that is bare metal. Was right on 13.8v

[bleetnblurt]

Originally Posted by Siggers

Yes I have had the coils out, they look to be in good condition from what I can tell.

Why should I check timing? It seems a bit pointless as it was running ok, and nothing has been touched there?

I also took some voltage readings across some of the coils while the car was running, no voltage difference between the two posts of the battery and between the battery and anywhere on the motor that is bare metal. Was right on 13.8v

if you took coils off , check them again , make sure the earth straps are on the correct coils , and check for the spark plug going into the coil see how they connect and hold , buy some electric grease to make sure they connect well.

[drover]

Have a look in the manual it has a procedure for checking the coils, check plug lead resistance as well you can get breakdowns in these things at certain times and they can be a pain to find, heat, moisture, tides and moon phases can cause them to play up, if they need grease or some crimping to get a connection then the coil must be stuffed as the spark should damn near blow the lead out.
I wouldn't worry about timing that much, only mentioned it from old style engines when you had to set everything by hand.

Have you done a compression test ???? You can have low compression but not burn oil.

[Siggers]

It doesn't have any leads,the coil plugs directly into the spark plug.

While I have the coils out Ill check compression.

Last night I ran new earths to the backs of the coils on each side, and also cleaned the IAC. It iddles better, and this morning it didn't take as long to start, however this afternoon when I jump in it will be the test.