Civilian Owned Firearms, what do we think?

[Rock God]

Originally Posted by aido_3927

This must have been a very long while ago. Semi autos are available now as Category C but only to primary producers or professional shooters (ie. pest control) but automatics are strictly prohibited as are handguns, the exception being you can own a handgun if it's for competition use.

The laws are not great but are becoming more restrictive all the time. It's just the addition of new laws to curb gun crime that upsets firearm owners because new laws don't help; criminals don't follow the law. And most of the time the laws themselves are just a hoop jumping exercise to make the public think that the government is actually doing something.

The biggest part of the problem is public perception of the sport.

Was only last year so not long ago and your hand gun statement is not correct well not in the NT anyway. In helicopter mustering hand guns which are legal and licensed are commonly used and license must be renewed every year even barrumundi fishing trips by helicopter you can have a handgun, you can call it croc protection. like i said pilots in remote areas you can do this.

We had pro shooters with autos but maybe they were naughty cowboys but yes they used semi auto to shoot from helicopters to cull camels, donkeys etc.

[aido_3927]

Originally Posted by Rock God

Was only last year so not long ago and your hand gun statement is not correct well not in the NT anyway. In helicopter mustering hand guns which are legal and licensed are commonly used and license must be renewed every year even barrumundi fishing trips by helicopter you can have a handgun, you can call it croc protection. like i said pilots in remote areas you can do this.

We had pro shooters with autos but maybe they were naughty cowboys but yes they used semi auto to shoot from helicopters to cull camels, donkeys etc.

Wow that's pretty surprising! Here in NSW owning a handgun for anything but target comp is a big no no, and you must participate in a set number of club competitions per year to be able to keep the license and guns. Sorry for the misinformation... I didn't realise anywhere in Aus allowed handguns for anything other than competitions... Although I do already know NSW sucks for firearms laws!

[Rock God]

Originally Posted by GariJ

Why is a hand gun a survival aid to a pilot? And why do professional shooters need automatics? Not being funny here just curious. Just looking at this as a need vs want.

On a lighter note. How many other pilots carry hand guns because I'm FIFO and no longer feel comfortable lol.

survival to protect you from crocs, buffalo, pigs etc if you go down in the bush, i knew a few helicopter pilots with hand guns some even had dirty harry type hand cannons again all mustering guys. never heard of any fixed wing guys with them so i think your safe with your fifo to mines charter flights.

Regarding auto's yes they dont need, but there cowboys

[Rock God]

I copied this from the NT Police website just in case you thought i was full of poo.

APPLICANTS SEEKING A CATEGORY H ENDORSEMENT ON A SHOOTERS LICENCE FOR OCCUPATIONAL PURPOSES

In the case of a pilot who operates in remote areas, the following must be provided:
•A copy of your Pilots Licence
•Copies of the last 6 months of your flight logs,
•A copy of your Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CA
SA) approval to carry a firearm on an aircraft,
•A copy of your Firearm Training and Safety Course
certificate,
•A letter outlining the reason why you require a pistol, and the circumstances of why a firearm is not
provided by your employer under a Corporate and Employee Licence, and
•Storage arrangements.
In the case of other individual occupational requirements, the following must be provided:
•A letter outlining the reason why you require a pistol, and the circumstances of why a firearm is not provided by your employer under a Corporate and Employee Licence.

[aido_3927]

Originally Posted by Rock God

I copied this from the NT Police website just in case you thought i was full of poo.

APPLICANTS SEEKING A CATEGORY H ENDORSEMENT ON A SHOOTERS LICENCE FOR OCCUPATIONAL PURPOSES

In the case of a pilot who operates in remote areas, the following must be provided:
•A copy of your Pilots Licence
•Copies of the last 6 months of your flight logs,
•A copy of your Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CA
SA) approval to carry a firearm on an aircraft,
•A copy of your Firearm Training and Safety Course
certificate,
•A letter outlining the reason why you require a pistol, and the circumstances of why a firearm is not
provided by your employer under a Corporate and Employee Licence, and
•Storage arrangements.
In the case of other individual occupational requirements, the following must be provided:
•A letter outlining the reason why you require a pistol, and the circumstances of why a firearm is not provided by your employer under a Corporate and Employee Licence.

I believed you, but cheers for that.. Pretty interesting to see..

[Wombat756]

Originally Posted by Rock God

survival to protect you from crocs, buffalo, pigs etc if you go down in the bush, i knew a few helicopter pilots with hand guns some even had dirty harry type hand cannons again all mustering guys. never heard of any fixed wing guys with them so i think your safe with your fifo to mines charter flights.

Regarding auto's yes they dont need, but there cowboys

They aren't cowboys. Semi autos are perfectly legal under the right licence. There is however a difference between semi auto ( fires once each time the trigger is pulled) and auto (pull and hold the trigger and the gun continues to fire until the magazine is empty). As said previously, full auto hasn't been legal on this country for decades. Semi auto still is legal, just more restricted than before 96.

Semi auto is definitely needed for the aerial cullers. It would just not be cost effective with a bolt action, they wouldn't kill anywhere enough ferals to justify the helicopter fuel.

[WhiteMeat]

For those that wonder why law abiding firearms citizens get super annoyed when more restrictions are placed on them: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-2...lunder/4031190

Just one of the failings at the border - yet the law abiding citizens get reamed even more...

GariJ, not trying to pick a fight here, but can you please let us know what you had to go through to get your bow - which, when you break it down - is considered a 'weapon' just like a firearm - and if not a weapon, please justify

Thx


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