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Old 19-01-2021
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Thats a strange one.
I also leave the obd reader in my daughters WH. No problems so far.
You can check for parasitic draw..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1gijj03_0&t=754s


Also, have you considered the Valvoline Max life tranny fluid as recommended by Clarky..
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Any advantage to using a multi vehicle transmission fluid when the ATF+4 is relatively cheap and easily available?

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Hi Alex.

Any advantage to using a multi vehicle transmission fluid when the ATF+4 is relatively cheap and easily available?

Brit.
I personally ignore Chrysler specs and follow Mercedes guidelines so I choose MB236.10. Some but not all ATF+4 fluids meet BM236.10 standards.

Besides if I search for ATF+4 here in Oz it always leads me to a multi vehicle fluid.
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Hi Clarky.
Thanks for chipping in.

I see what you are saying with regard to ignoring Chrysler specs. Having said that, Mercedes were the parent company at the time so would have given the thumbs up for ATF4 usage i presume.

All ATF4 with the appropriate approval will meet the minimum requirements so i am unsure why some equate to 236.10 and others do not.

Can you get Shell 3403 or equivalent in Oz? That was the original 236.10.

I am not a lover of the one size fits all multi vehicle oils. Maybe i am lucky in having no problem sourcing pretty much any spec.
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Battery tested at 888cca. I connected my bench power supply and charged it for hours then went for drive. Next morning it started fine. I suppose it was just very deeply drained, seems ok now. Lesson learned

Fitted a redarc tow pro brake controller today. Getting closer to the goal of a caravan towing vehicle!

I put the little button to the left of the steering column on the vertical plastic trim piece. It would have been easier to see and access on the right hand side, next to the ignition, but the plastic there was too thick for the mounting (max 3.75mm, it’s more like 5mm on the right).

I connected the trailer connector to my partners moms partners trailer and lights work but not the brakes! Then I remembered, oh, there was that blue wire at the Jeep’s trailer connector that wasn’t connected by previous... that’s the brake signal wire, doh!

I’ll fix that tomorrow and hopefully that’s all that is needed.

I’ve booked with Fluidrive (auto trans specialist) to have a look at the transmission next week. It’s still a bit rough on downshifts after heating up - better than before but still there - and maybe it’s my imagination but up shifts seem to be a bit slow, after the extra fluid was siphoned out. I think it’s still as put 10mm high but for some reason I couldn’t get the hose down to the pan to siphon any more out, I think the curl in the hose is getting it stuck on a lip or something.

Without a clean area (dirt driveway, garage full of my partners moms partners junk) I don’t feel comfortable dropping the trans pan to do a change and subsequent flush, worried some dust would blow up into it. And because the transmission is extra important for a towing vehicle, we decided it’s best for a specialist to look at it.

Chatted with the guy at fluidrive, he knows this transmission really well and services them for the local jeep dealership, I feel confident he can sort any issues.

I’ve got a Kess v2 clone in the mail, can’t resist trying a tune. I’ll be using yeti (Marco giacomelli) for the tune. As a computer person it’s just irresistible. This is classified as a cannabat expenditure, not shared with my partner will end up under $350 Aud for the tune and I have a nice techie toy. It will be extremely difficult to resist having a poke around in a hex editor. This is my home turf, things powered by electrons

Finally, I will consider getting a dash mounted obd reader so I don’t have to use a phone for stats, specifically trans temp, while towing. Ultragauge looks like the best option and shipped from the USA comes to around $175aud. If you buy from the Aus reseller it’s way more, seriously you get shafted like $300 or something. You can have up to 8 stats on display at a time, and can add custom PIDs (needed for trans fluid temp)

All coming together. It’ll be a bummer if the trans needs serious money but we got the car for a caravan and for what I believe was a pretty good price. Put a lot of work in, sure, and a few issues, but really happy with it overall.
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Good luck with the trans.
Those obd2 displays sound good.
Be interesting how you go with that tune...be careful there!

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Here's the OBD display: https://ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/ultragauge_wired.htm
With a mounting bracket it's around $175 AUD shipped from the USA.

Figured I'd update with some photos of what I've done on the Jeep in case it helps anybody in the future.

Ryco RCC351K catch can install

Used 25mm inner diameter fuel drum hose from eBay, 2x 25mm polypropylene elbows and hose clamps from bunnings. To mount the can itself, modified the bracket it came with and welded to a piece of metal scrap I made into a bracket.

The rubber hose that from from whatever is on the left to the turbo intake (the one just before the sensor) is really tight at both ends, I had to use a small screwdriver to stick underneath it and pry it out - came off easy after that.






Elephant hose mod

from Point-blank auto per Clarky's links in the sticky in this forum. Hose clamps from bunnings. I cut the t-pipe a bit more than the instructions, otherwise it rubbed on the fuel filter



Redarc tow pro elite brake controller

Went with this mainly because it is tiny and with the other type of brake controllers that are typically mounted just above your knees, you don't have a lot of leg room. And if they are proportional controllers, and you knock it with your knee, you will throw off the calibration and your braking will be wonky at best and very dangerous at worst.



Power wires and 30A auto-reset circuit breaker connected positive to a fuse box terminal and negative to a ground post. Not happy with that circuit breaker mount job, not one bit, but it will do for now.





Then ran some thin poly piping as cable conduit from the battery area in thru a rubber gasket on passenger side (a previous owner had already cut this for something, so I used the existing slice to feed the conduit thru), then under/thru the dash to the driver's side.



the controller's box is very thoroughly zip-tied to a piece of metal to the left of the steering column. double checked nothing would hit it here.



I didn't have any butt connectors and I generally prefer soldering, so I got my iron up under the steering area and very, very carefully spliced into the brake lamp wire and factory-provided green trailer brake signal wire.

At the rear, whoever had installed the 7-pin trailer connector had not connected the brake signal wire, well it was connected at some point but they had cut it. I found the brake signal wire in the bundle of wires running underneath the vehicle - same green color as under the dash, and in the same bundle that connects to the brake lamps. cut it and connected the blue 7-pin brake signal wire to it and everything works.

Glow plugs

Did this today. Taking the electrical connectors off was the second-hardest part, the #6 glow plug (back passenger side) is really cramped and it was a pain in the batoot to get it off. was afraid I would break the connector.

after taking off all the electrical connectors I tested all the plugs with my multimeter set to continuity/resistance. positive of multimeter on the end of the plug, negative on ground. this test confirmed that the #1, #2 and #4 glow plugs had very high resistance and needed replacing.

couldn't find compressed air so I just used a small tube and my lungs to blow all loose dust around the plugs away.

WD-40'd all the plugs, waited a while, got a few out but some still sticking and I didn't want to push it with the wrench, WD-40 again, wait a few, got em out except #5, which was the hardest part.

used Penrite Copper Eze high temperature anti-seize ccompound on the threads when installing the new glow plugs

#5 was really in there good. after 3x WD-40 applications and like 45 minutes total time soaking, i could move it with an acceptable amount of force, but only a tiny bit at a time. I slowly, carefully loosened it and got it to what I thought was completely un-threaded but it wouldn't lift out. after more lubrication and screwing it in and out a few times I got it a bit looser, could pull it out a little bit but got stuck. well kept at it and finally got it out and holy smokes! it's dirty as and has carbon caked up all on it.




at this point I wanted to clean the tube where the glow plug was inserted but figured there was no way to do that really without getting nasty soot or whatever downn in the hole which I assume is a bad idea. so, I just installed the new plug. it did not go in smoothly like the rest - im sure there is a layer of carbon in the hole it goes into. maybe I will revisit it in the future.

interestingly, plugs 3, 5 and 6 all tested fine while in the engine block. but only #3 was 100% good after taking them out. #5 obviously is crap. #6 was good in some areas and bad in others. kept #3 as a backup and #6 as a backup backup.

#5 is a different brand than then rest, which along with the 6 new ones i put in, were all bosch. maybe during the last glow plug swap they couldn't get #5 out and left it? dunno.

filled up the windscreen washer reservoir with bars bugs and clean water also

turned her on, started up quickly! usually takes around 3 seconds first start of the day - today, after the glow plugs, around 1 second. cleared codes, rescan, computer is happy with everything, and so am I.
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Nice thread. Good info here.

I have a tune by Yeti, believe I was the first Aussie Jeep that he provided a tune for. Very happy with him, his service, and tune.

He also does NAG1 trans tuning now... If only I can actually find the TCM in my 2007 Commander to remove and tweak so it will accept a custom tune file I would have done it by now (factory service manuals that I have referred to are all for XK LHD Commander's and similarly for WK Grand Cherokee's and I don't believe its in the same spot for our RHD models).
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