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Thanks guys I really appreciate the feedback. I am just so wary of these stories that once a lift kit has been installed, instant regret has followed.

I do need to do something about it, because its only one small pot hole away from being a disaster. I will post some photos tonight to show you the clearance issues once I have it loaded back up
I can understand your apprehension Angus! There’s lots of horror stories out there, but I can tell you that both Clip and I have had very positive experiences with the Rancho products (AUS and US kits). I’m not sure where you are located, but if you’re in the Brisbane region I’d be happy for you to come have a look at my set up and experience the difference it makes in the ride and handling, on and off road.

I’ve been working on Jeeps, muscle cars (mostly Mustangs) and motorcycles for the better part of 30 years and I’d never recommend products on a forum like this that I haven’t personally used and been happy with (and there are lots of products I haven’t been happy with). Do your research, talk to your local Jeep club members and make your choice from there. Just don’t be sucked into the hype that you have to spend thousands and lift your Jeep to the sky to get the most out of your vehicle.

I can honestly say that there is a night and day difference between the stock suspension and the combo I’m running now. I just wish I’d skipped the Teraflex levelling kit and gone with a kit like the Rancho from the start!

Oh yeah, and I’m legal without any need for certification in all states... noting I’m in the be-all of nanny states when it comes to lift and tyre regulation!!
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Ditto above.
How much did you spend on your Jeep? Is another 1.5k going to break the bank for what will not only resolve your immediate issue, but also result in a far better driving experience in normal situations? Honestly, this is the no-brainer mod of all times. Oh, and I have absolutely no affiliation with anyone (unfortunately ).

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Not at all guys. $1.5 is totally in the ball park. I just do want to start the ball rolling with additional issues if I make the move haha.

So you would say that the Rancho gear did make a huge impact to the daily driver?

I will start reading in to it now!
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Thanks for your help guys. Is the attached quote a good price for what it is?

JK 2 DR 2" RANCHO LIFT KIT WITH RS5000 SHOCKS, FR COILS, RR SPACERS, FR BUMP STOPS, REAR BRAKE LINE BRKTS & RS5000 SHOCKS. ADD RTB, FR PANARD & CASTER ADJUST

JK PANARD DROP BRACKET R/H/D

JK CASTER BOLT OME SQUARE HEAD SET JK FR PANARD ROD ADJUSTABLE

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I'd go with the 9000 series as they're adjustable. That sounds like the US kit which is just a tad higher lift than the Aussie kit I got _ being 40mm (actually turned out to be 45 but it still might settle). My kit $1500 delivered with the 9000 series shocks. Fitting is easy, but you need to add in wheel alignment. With the US kit you get a bit more gear with it that's not necessary with the Aussie kit, although it does include a massive adjustable panhard rod.

That price does sound really good, but maybe just consider the adjustable 9000 shocks?

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If I'm reading that correctly it is only using spacers in the rear. If the current spring rate is inadequate this is not ideal. You need a spring to handle the load you carry.

I would also question the addition of front bumps, are these required because the shocks are too long or as an easy way out from creating the required guard clearance? (irrelevant if overall travel is not a concern, but I can't see the point in limiting travel unnecessarily)
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Thanks for your help guys. Is the attached quote a good price for what it is?

JK 2 DR 2" RANCHO LIFT KIT WITH RS5000 SHOCKS, FR COILS, RR SPACERS, FR BUMP STOPS, REAR BRAKE LINE BRKTS & RS5000 SHOCKS. ADD RTB, FR PANARD & CASTER ADJUST

JK PANARD DROP BRACKET R/H/D

JK CASTER BOLT OME SQUARE HEAD SET JK FR PANARD ROD ADJUSTABLE

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Hmm, I'm not sure about that kit. It looks like it doesn't have some components you really need to resolve your issues, and on the other hand includes unnecessary parts for a short lift. It looks like this combo is based around one of Rancho US's very basic kits (US$350 https://www.morris4x4center.com/ranc...-66108br5.html). Both Rancho US and Australia have much better/more complete kits available, which both Clip and I have installed.

This kit doesn't have upgraded rear springs, which you really need for your heavier set up (rear spacers won't firm up the ride, so you'll just end up bouncing off the bump stops all the time instead of the fender flares). Also, I wouldn't bother with a new front track bar, as with only 40-50mm lift you're not going to see any significant axle deflection. It seems overkill and your money could be better spent on other components that will actually make a difference to how your Jeep rides and handles, like a set of Teraflex or Synergy front lower control arms (way better caster correction option than OME caster bolts).

As Clip said, the Rancho Australia kit is about $1,500 with the 9000XL adjustable shocks and new springs at all four corners. Also, if you have a look at their website you can choose between constant load springs (stiffer, better if you always have the rooftop tent and other items loaded in/on the Jeep) or comfort/medium springs (probably fine if you only load up occasionally, as you can dial up the shocks when you're fully loaded. The springs will still be stiffer than stock springs). https://rancho.com.au/jk-wrangler-suspension.html

I assume your Wrangler is a 2-door, as the 4-door springs are slightly stiffer due to their extra weight. You wouldn't want to put 2-door spec springs on a 4-door JKU.

I'm not sure who gave you that quote, but it doesn't seem like they've actually understood what your current issues are, or how to solve them properly.
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I started with a Teraflex levelling kit for a couple of years before doing the full lift kit. Extra clearance to run 33" but I wasn't loading up like you are. This did the job for me until the stock springs and shocks were worn out.
Cheapest way to lift without a lift kit I've seen.

As others have said though, tougher springs is really the best way forward
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I would also question the addition of front bumps, are these required because the shocks are too long or as an easy way out from creating the required guard clearance? (irrelevant if overall travel is not a concern, but I can't see the point in limiting travel unnecessarily)
Correct! From what I read from others who have installed the Rancho 2" kits, the front bump stop extensions are only necessary if you want to run 35" tyres with one of these kits. No need with 33". I flexed mine up without the extensions and didn't get any contact between the wheel and fender (285/70r17's), and have since done some hard flexing on trails with no rubbing.
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