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15-02-2019
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CrawlerStar
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne GB
Posts: 438 What Jeep do I drive?: JK
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The 8 speed auto very nice, but very complicated piece of machinery
Whats the JL re-sale value going to be like, if your lucky and it manages to reach 150K or more without issues before then ?
Bet there are not that many people around that can fix / rebuild them properly
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23-03-2019
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Established Member
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 221 What Jeep do I drive?: JK
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Manuals are good but now were good.
In my opinion since the advent of dual mass flywheels, things have changed.
The DMF has changed the feel of a manual, they feel spongy on take off.
The major factor is the cost of repair of DMF system. To me the cost is ridiculous, defeats the idea, purpose of an inexpensive clutch system compared to an automatic system.
I had a manual JK 2007 Unlimited diesel, didn't know it was a DMF system, never again.
Suggested consensus fix was to convert to single mass. But long term reliability was not proven. That jeep driveline is one expensive system to replace if all packs it in due to the vibration frequencies from the diesel engine, my thoughts were of all those big and small bearings having to take the extra vibrations generated that were once cushioned by that DMF system.
I didn't need to replace a clutch or DMF.
So if I were to buy another Diesel manual, for me I would choose a vehicle that came standard with a single mass flywheel believing the whole vehicle would be designed, engineered for it.
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23-03-2019
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I just registered
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: South-East Melbourne
Age: 48
Posts: 258 What Jeep do I drive?: JK
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Suggested consensus fix was to convert to single mass. But long term reliability was not proven. That jeep driveline is one expensive system to replace if all packs it in due to the vibration frequencies from the diesel engine, my thoughts were of all those big and small bearings having to take the extra vibrations generated that were once cushioned by that DMF system.
50,000kms on my SMF conversion and no problems at all, i thought they were put in mass produced cars to dampen the vibration/ shock when releasing the clutch for idiots who cant drive properly but still want a manual 😂😅.
The jk clutch was a known issue from the factory as they detuned the manuals by 30kw i believe to extend the life of the clutch. I could be wrong on that, too many brain cells fried, but i remenber being told that by someone, so it is heresay.
Not to mention the smf coversion was half the price of genuine replacement
, even the HDversion
Sent from my SM-G900I using Aussie Jeep Offroad mobile app
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Locked F+R, 2 1/2" 33's
AEV F+R bars
"Dr. says I need a backiotomy!"
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