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30-08-2019
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AJOR Silver
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Jeep Ranks as #1 Polluter in Australia
Well this is pretty sad news, this online story ranks Jeep as the #1 Polluter among brands sold in Australia:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...9ea920ab2efda2
And in another story today, I see Australia has recorded another increase in CO2 emissions, for the fifth year in a row. So much for the Federal Govt commitment to the Kyoto Accord. We have no hope of meeting the targets with no plan for reductions.
Now, of course it's not my Jeep that is doing all this polluting, haha, but it is giving me pause for thinking it is time to get rid of it (after 12 years). Still I drive less than 10,000kms per year now, and unless I just scrap it, some new owner might drive it alot more, not service it, and generally make things worse from a pollution perspective. Then too, I would need to buy another car, which means I need to pick a low CO2 offender, much lower. My electric bike already gets used for trips to the local shops, weather permiting; and my home and shed solar systems are not contributing to CO2 production (other than when the gear was built a decade ago). What else can we do?
What is generating this continual CO2 increase in Australia? How can we bring it down, quickly?
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30-08-2019
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Established Member
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 139 What Jeep do I drive?: WG
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Buy a teslar and charge it from a coal burning power station.
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31-08-2019
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Join Date: Jan 2015
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Yeah, it makes me embarrassed to be an Australian, frankly. We sit here in one of the countries that’s most vulnerable to climate change, and we make bugger all effort to improve our behaviour, despite having the wealth to invest in cleaner infrastructure. Don’t even get me started on the fossil fuels we export to other countries to burn, and the billions of dollars in subsidies we hand out to prop up fossil fuels.
Bottom line, we think we’re an advanced civilisation. We should be able to get by without depending on digging shit up and setting fire to it. Other countries can do it, and we’re blessed with more renewable energy sources than pretty much any nation on earth. We have no excuse.
It makes me f*ing angry, to be honest.
As for Jeep - they’re doing their bit - your CO2 emissions are nothing while it’s off the road for 2 months waiting for parts...
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31-08-2019
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Grumpy Old XJ Dsl Owner
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Northern Victoria
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Polar bear numbers at an all time high.
Largest volume of sea ice for decades.
Bloody cold here.
The only evidence of warming is "normalized" data. The raw data tells a different story.
But what would I know, I only majored in Simultaneous Mass & Energy transfer as part of my Chemical engineering degree a very long time ago.
The masses would rather believe a person who's area of specialty is dinosaurs or an actor.
If you want information on global warming you need to talk to those in the humanities depts of universities or some one who has just got a grant to work in the area. Or you could talk to a Y2K bug disciple. There are plenty of them on the warming band wagon.
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31-08-2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by layback40
Polar bear numbers at an all time high.
Largest volume of sea ice for decades.
Bloody cold here.
The only evidence of warming is "normalized" data. The raw data tells a different story.
But what would I know, I only majored in Simultaneous Mass & Energy transfer as part of my Chemical engineering degree a very long time ago.
The masses would rather believe a person who's area of specialty is dinosaurs or an actor.
If you want information on global warming you need to talk to those in the humanities depts of universities or some one who has just got a grant to work in the area. Or you could talk to a Y2K bug disciple. There are plenty of them on the warming band wagon.
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Speaking as one of ‘the masses’, personally I’d prefer global warming didn’t exist so we didn’t have to give a crap about it. Thing is, humanity has been setting fire to everything we can dig up or cut down for a couple of centuries since the industrial revolution. There’s no way that hasn’t altered the atmosphere of the planet, and it would be extremely unlikely an altered atmosphere wouldn’t change its behavior.
I’m curious though - if global warming is the conspiracy theory/bandwagon you claim it to be - why does the conspiracy exist? Who stands to gain? There are countless examples of corporations with vested interests trying to find ways to make us feel warm and fuzzy over coal and oil, but there doesn’t seem to be the same level of corporate support for global warming theories... global warming as a conspiracy doesn’t really pass the ‘sniff test’ for me.
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01-09-2019
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AJOR Silver
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-n-Jo
Buy a teslar and charge it from a coal burning power station.
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Well actually most electric cars can be charged off your house solar system (during the day), without needing coal to be burned. But of course that is pretty slow. True the fast charge stations do need to get all those Amps from a power station.
My electric bike is solar charged from my off-grid shed solar system, but that is only a 36V 16AH battery.
I would actually consider an electric conversion on the KJ, if I could find a place that would do it. It should be fairly simple, only one electric motor required, pull the heavy CRD and transmission, add a control system, BMS, and battery bank and its done. My son is an electrical engineer and we worked up a drawing of how it could work. Heck you can even build your own Li-ion battery bank using Samsung 18650 cells tied together. There is a company online selling battery build kits that connect li-ion cells together with Lego like connectors.
Seems to me that is the sort of industry Australia should be encouraging. Imagine an ARB type shop where you just drop your car off and come back in a couple of days and pick up your electric vehicle.
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01-09-2019
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Lowranger Shocker
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: yamba 2464 nsw
Posts: 1,588 What Jeep do I drive?: WH
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It all ways amazes me that backyard scientists are smarter than the worlds best climate specialists.!! When the oceans around Aus and NZ were the warmest on record last year,plus hottest years on record,polar ice melting at an all time high.Something is changing at a more rapid rate than at any time in the past.when you have ultra right wing climate specialists, Bolt , Jones,plus Abbot plus plenty more in the current government saying climate change is a myth what chance do we have.Maybe Nutra grain should bring out a cereal
sprinkled with coal dust ! I might add I am a middle of the road voter !,
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