Longranger

[Redemptioner]

Brown Davis tanks crack after a while, we went through a few before giving up on them, from what I have seen the Longranger tanks are not much better and suffer the same issues (like apprentices doing the welding). Worth pointing out that changing the main tank or adding and auxiliary tank requires a mod plate and neither Brown Davis or Longranger will help you out in that respect.

If you own a Jeep then the only LR tank option worth getting is from Genright, yes they are not cheap and you have to import them but at least they are happy to supply any documents needed to meet ADR approval and their main direct replacement line does not require any approval at all (also comes with a decent bash plate). You can stuff around with these poor excuses for long range tanks they sell in Australia or you can go and buy a tank from O/S that you can see has clearly had time spent to maximising the fuel capacity for a jeep without costing you valuable space or stuffing around with transfer pumps.


There are a couple options for the JK, add a tank or replace a tank





On a TJ it is easier just to replace the main tank with a 95Ltr tank, bolts straight into your TJ and does not take up any more room

[MightyMouse]

In Victoria you do not need to have a VASS certificate ( no Mod plates in Vic either ) as long as you meet the requirements of VSI 8 - Section 12.1.3 ( Replacement or Additional Fuel Tanks ). Self Certification basically.

The requirements are pretty straightforward ( common sense sort of things ) so no big deal or difficulty in complying.......

I've got a 55ltr alloy tank in my shorty where the rear muffler used to be...... built it myself for a tiny fraction of any commercial one but did involve removing the "storage thing" in the rear floor and a bit of exhaust rework. Biggest job was plumbing the @#$%.

So if your Vic registered - easy as

[Redemptioner]

Originally Posted by MightyMouse

In Victoria you do not need to have a VASS certificate ( no Mod plates in Vic either ) as long as you meet the requirements of VSI 8 - Section 12.1.3 ( Replacement or Additional Fuel Tanks ). Self Certification basically.

The requirements are pretty straightforward ( common sense sort of things ) so no big deal or difficulty in complying.......
So if your Vic registered - easy as

Yes self certification if you are a certified VASS engineer, I don't know you personally but I would assume you are not a VASS engineer so you would still require the document from the engineer just you don't have to go to the additional cost (on top of the engineer costs to certify the tank) of a mod plate in Vic....

It is the same as bullbars, as long as they meet standard you are fine, only thing is you need someone that is certified to sign off that it meets standard in the first place else you can't used it legally.

[MightyMouse]

You don't ave to "engineer" ( in Victoria ) as long as you stick within the VSI. As long as you meet the VSI's requirements that's it. The only exception ( requiring VASS engineering ) is if you put a larger capacity tank on the standard mounts ( strength concerns ) and that's stated in the VSI

I contacted VicRoads before I started on mine so absolutely certain.

[Redemptioner]

Originally Posted by MightyMouse

You don't ave to "engineer" ( in Victoria ) as long as you stick within the VSI. As long as you meet the VSI's requirements that's it. The only exception ( requiring VASS engineering ) is if you put a larger capacity tank on the standard mounts ( strength concerns ) and that's stated in the VSI

I contacted VicRoads before I started on mine so absolutely certain.

And yet the only person that can state/confirm/certify you have met the standards is a VASS engineer, confirmed this morning with an experienced VASS engineer before posting . As they stated to me "its a fuel container so of course it requires a certified engineer to sign off on it if you make a new one, Vic roads want someone to pass the buck too and that is us, most of us won't touch a fuel tank with a 20ft pole irrelevant of who made it".

So does it need to be engineered (mod plate, testing etc) the answer is no, does it require a certified engineer to sign off on it meeting the standards the answer is a clear yes you do, what's the chances of the person on the phone or over the counter at Vic roads having any real idea on what the requirements are for fuel tanks the answer is pretty much zero chance they know anything at all (other than maybe able to look up the section of the act and read it out to you).

Common sense would dictate that the person who can say/certify/sign-off if something meets a standard or not would require some sort of training and certification/qualification in the area in question in order for them to have any sort of authority. Rock down to Vic roads with a custom fuel tank and tell them that you (or your local butcher) certify that the new tank meets the standards and they will no doubt have a laugh and/or ask to see your VASS Certified engineers ticket, if you can't produce the ticket then you will asked to come back when you have certification from someone who has. Now you rock down there the same as above but tell them you had a VASS engineer certify all is good they will ask you for the paperwork from the engineer and move on. Admittedly any decent single replacement tank (change the old smaller tank for a decent larger range one) which has been installed properly (and does not stick out like dogs balls) is never going to be noticed by authorities even if it was put over the pit.

[MightyMouse]

Fuel containers are treated different IIRC....

Anyway...... Your entitled to your opinion - I'm satisfied with the VicRoads information, they stated it wasn't an issue and only needed VASS if the "original mounts" clause was relevant. As I have a bit of contact with a VASS Engineer I'll run it by him and see what he says.