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Tasar, I thought the compario was quite good actually, I have always found this magazine to be fair and very impartial with their road tests. I am aware of a number of 'non- rice burners' that have received accolades, ie Ford Teritory......Land Rover Discovery....Mercedes Benz...and certainly many Japanese models, perhaps because they are in fact, quite good.
They do not always say what us Jeep owners want to hear and I would be very dissppointed if they did.
If a Prado or the new Pathfinder is more capable off road as they tested it then that is exactly what they should say...it doesnt mean I am going to race out and sell my Jeep....horses for courses. They did say that the new engine is excellent.
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will have a good read of the article and let you know

as long the compare are comparing cars that are same price - the commander is much better value for money - on stuff like 4x4 systems - traction control etc and internal fittings

as we know tyres can make a big difference
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the show i saw didnt bag it at all for its drivetrain, power or 4wd system.. they actually said it was great.. it was the looks and interior items which put them off..

they rated it with range rovers and it came up 5-15g cheaper than those models.
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They did say something about low slung front end and snow shovel thou.
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Salesguy..I'm interested in your comment..... "Commander is aimed mainly at those who buy Prados, Pajeros, LandCruisers and Patrols. There's absolutely no doubt that out-of-the-box the Commander will outperform those vehicles off-road and on".....thats one hell of a claim but no doubt you have good reason to say so....can you share it with us?
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jack it up, (dont ask me how) put 33 inch claws on it, and it will look awesome. I remember when my xj was stock. It looked like a volvo. Now it looks tough. Just about any 4x4 looks good when its jacked up.
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Read through the specs, commander has comparable approach and departure angles than any of the competition in the mag and yet, Commander was a shovel?? How does this work. Jeep made the concious decision to sell the car with a lower ride height than would normally be considered for offroad, because most people will not take it offroad, these same magazines ALWAYS state that if you are serious about going offroad in aany of these vehicles then you should upgrade the suspension (except for Landrover/Range Rover, 'coz you can't- oh, still no mention of the fact that they drop to their lowest ride height over 40km/h makes for very slow going on corrugated roads....), so why pick on ride height, surely the fact that the vehicle has the best 'out of the box' traction system is what counts. Prado is a decrepid old piece of junk that breaks at a moments notice and is not particularly capable- ask anyone in the Landcruiser clubs.....
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