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And all the things you'll read about the mopar springs being harsh are true.

I've got the 2.5 inch lift on my 2 door, I have no bar work or bolt on bits and with one person in the car it's painful.
With 4 people and a bit of gear it become bearable. Unless you're planning to add a lot of weight to your rig my advice is probably best to stay clear of the stiff blue springs.
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I have used the mopar springs and shocks and as stated they are a harsh ride. And I have a 4 door CRD with bullbar and winch.

Recently changed it all out to the AEV 2.5" lift with geometry brackets and was quite surprised at what a difference it made to it. It actually drives really nice now. handles really well. Smooth and comfortable.

As for tyres I am currently running Goodyear duratrac in a 285 70 17 and these will now be my tyre of choice for any 4wd I buy in the future. Can not rate these things high enough. I just wish I had gone to the next size up.
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The best mod a person can make to a Sport is sway bar disconnects. The solid front axle comes into its own when it's disconnected from the swaybar. Best return on investment you'll get from suspension upgrades.

If you don't want to go over board, just gain some clearance to run a 33 without any rubbing then the parts required would be;

Front sway bar disconnects
2" front springs
2.25" rear springs - this is to return the factory rake. I prefer it, some do not. It makes the car turn in faster.
Set of shocks for a 2-3" lift
bump stop extensions
a bracket to extend the rear brake line - this is just a piece of metal 15mm x 40mm with a hole in each end and a bolt with nut. DIY

That set up will allow the use of a full 33x12.5 on aftermarket rims with a good improvement in articulation. Particularly when the front is disconnected.

No need for correction brackets, track bars or any of that. Factory geometry isn't modified enough for it to be a concern. This is also offset by the fitting of aftermarket bars, winch etc.

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Not sure about the 3.8 petrol but with the CRD you want to do the opposite. I run 2.5 in the front and 2 inch in the back to offset the extra weight and thats with a steel bar and accessory up front.

In regard to correcting the geometry, raising 2 inches will affect the caster angle and create a harsher ride. You want your caster angle to be between 4.5 & 5° preferably. If you have the cash I would highly recommend upper or lower adjustable arms. You diff will also move sideways with a 2 inch lift so once again I would recommend the adjustable track bar.

Total agree with the below comment regarding the sway bar discos and brake line extension brackets. I forgot to include this in my original comments.

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Not sure about the 3.8 petrol but with the CRD you want to do the opposite. I run 2.5 in the front and 2 inch in the back to offset the extra weight and thats with a steel bar and accessory up front.

In regard to correcting the geometry, raising 2 inches will affect the caster angle and create a harsher ride. You want your caster angle to be between 4.5 & 5° preferably. If you have the cash I would highly recommend upper or lower adjustable arms. You diff will also move sideways with a 2 inch lift so once again I would recommend the adjustable track bar.

Total agree with the below comment regarding the sway bar discos and brake line extension brackets. I forgot to include this in my original comments.

It all comes down to what you want to spend
Please explain exactly what handling characteristic you mean when you say "create a harsher ride". That's layman's speak that has absolutely zero value to a suspension tuner.

The small change in caster with a 2" lift will make the car more flighty and increase bump steer. Bump steer is likely what some owners are misinterpreting as a harsh ride.

With a 2" lift my pinion angle changed to about 2.4, making the caster around 3.6. Bump steer is manageable and the Jeep is very nice to turn in through twisties. Much better than the stock setup's tendency to under steer.

I've seen a JKU with a 2" Mopar lift and my JK with a 2" rancho lift. When measuring trackbar drift, neither vehicle was out by enough to warrant the cost of an adjustable track bar. The vehicles did not have a tendency to crab at all. In fact there was no noticeable difference over stock springs.
Once you over 2.5" of measurable lift, then it becomes a necessity.

For most owners a 2" lift spring usually ends up being a 1.5-1.75 actual lift once you bolt on steel bumpers, winch and load the boot up.
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Out of curiosity, how does one get the wide stance look on the Wrangler? Is it using spacers? Are they legal in WA?


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If legal is a concern then no, spacers are not legal in Australia. Best you can do legally is wheels with an offset of 20mm (stock is 45mm and max 25mm increase in track width each side).

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