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Default Introduction into Batteries and Charging Systems

Due to the demand a summarization of Battery and charging related issues:

Table of Content:

1. The Battery:
- Lead Acid
- Gel
- AGM
- Llthium Ion

2. The Simple Charging System:
- Alternator
- Regulator
- XJ Charging System

3. The Multi-Battery Problem:
- Combination of different battery types
- Choosing the right battery

4. Finding a Solution:
- What is available on the market?

5. Mechanical Relays, Switches, Solenoids:
- Advantages
- Disadvantages

6. The (real) Electronic Isolator:
Diodes:
- Advantages
- Disadvantages
Charge Current Distributor:
- Advantages
- Disadvantages

7. Fuses and Connectors:
- Fuses
- Connectors
- Differences
- What to avoid?
- What to choose?
- Resistance?
- comparing different conductors on the market, OFC against CCA



8. Battery watch relays
-What is is it?
-How do they work?

9. The setup in a XJ with real life measurements:
- Setup in a XJ
- Calculations
- Execution

10. Battery monitor:
- Why monitoring a battery?

11. Charts:
- Resistance -again?
- cable diameter
- length according to current draw

12. Sources
Comments was changed into Sources to enable the members where to look for even more knowledge.

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1. The Battery

An automotive battery is a type of rechargeable battery that supplies electric energy to an automobile.

Battery Types:

Lead-Acid Batteries
Lead-acid batteries are made depending on the application of the battery.
The flooded cell type, liquid electrolyte, is inexpensive but requires more maintenance and can spill or leak.
Some flooded batteries have removable caps that allow for the electrolyte to be tested and maintained.
More costly flooded batteries are
valve regulated lead acid (VRLA) batteries, also called sealed batteries.

E
xplosive hydrogen gas is generated when the battery is overcharged. This makes them dangerous to use in the interior. There can be a venting hose attached to ventilate the gas to the outside. But the acid, which can be spilled, is also very aggressive to the metal and any surface.
Lead acid batteries stored in the interior? Not recommended.

AGM Batteries
The absorbed glass mat (AGM) type uses a glass mat separator, and a gel cell uses fine powder to absorb and immobilize the sulfuric acid electrolyte.
The cells are sealed so the degree of charge cannot be measured by hydrometer and the electrolyte cannot be replenished.
The advantage of being sealed is the usability in the interior of the vehicle since there is no or very little gassing.

AGM batteries have an outstanding life expectancy, if the batteries are not discharged more than 60% between recharge.
AGM automobile batteries are typically about twice the price than standard ones.
The AGM battery does not require to be built-in in an upright position.

AGM batteries have a significant advantage- they do not gas under normal circumstances. That means they can be used safely in the interior. No explosive hydrogengas as compared with lead acid batteries.

Attention:
There are different types of AGM Batteries available on the market:
SLI (Starting, Lights, Interior)
DC (Deep Cycle)
(explanation see below: The Difference Between Batteries)
and a combination of both, the so called starting and supply battery.
So buying an AGM battery does not include mandatory the ability to be used as a supply battery or as a starting battery!


Gel Batteries
Gel batteries are designed as pure supply batteries, they are built exactly like the AGM with the difference of missing the glass mat.

Cycle life is increased dramatically.
The internal resistance of gel batteries is higher than AGM or lead acid batteries.
They are therfor not designed to provide high currents for starting purposes.
Gel batteries can be up to five times more expensive than standard lead acid batteries, plus Gel Cell Batteries must be recharged correctly or the battery will suffer premature failure.
The battery charger being used to recharge the battery(s) must be designed or adjustable for Gel Cell Batteries.
If using an alternator to recharge a true Gel Cell a special regulator must be installed.

Gel batteries, depending on the model and manufacturer can be discharged down to 80%.
The Gel battery does also not require to be built in an upright position.

Gel batteries do also not gas under normal circumstances. They also can be used safely in the interior.

Lithium Ion Batteries
Lithium Ion Batteries are the new star on the sky.
Being 2/3 less heavier than a conventional battery, and occupying only 1/3 of the space as a normal battery.
A Lithium Ion battery has a life exspectancy of 10 years with one complete cycle per day(!).
A LI battery is short resistant and can be recharged within 1 hour!
So far so good:
Now the disadvantages:
You need a battery management system:
- to make sure every cell of the battery gets the same amount of charge
- all currents (in and out must be measured and computed
- the difference between a full and depleted LI battery is only 0.125V
- all cells must be equalized
- the bms must shut doown the cell in an unexpected event like overcharging

the most counting disadvantage: the price $$$

$1000 for 80 Ah and $1200 for 100 Ah(June 2013)
LI batteries are used in emergency vehicles or military applications. They are still way too expensive for the public.

The Difference between Batteries:

Starting Type Battery
The starting type (SLI, starting, lighting, ignition ) is designed to deliver bursts of power for a short time usually about 1% to 3% of the battery capacity, as is needed to start an engine.
Once the engine is started, the battery is recharged by the engine-driven charging system.
Starting batteries are intended to have a low depth of discharge.
They are constructed of many thin plates with thin separators between the plates, and may have a higher specific gravity electrolyte to reduce internal resistance.
these batteries are not designed to provide power for a long duration. Doing so shortens the life expectany drastically. Sometimes down to 3 up to 10 cycles.

A charge cycle is a complete discharge down to 10.8V and back to full charge. It is not necessary to deplete the battery completely to recharge it. Recharge can be performed at any charging state. There is no memory as in Nickel Cadmium batteries.

Deep Cycle Battery
The deep cycle (DC) type is designed to continuously provide power for long periods of time.
They can also be used to store energy from a photovoltaic array or a small wind turbine. Deep-cycle batteries have fewer, thicker plates and are intended to have a greater depth of discharge on each cycle, but will not provide as high a current on heavy loads.
The thicker plates survive a higher number of charge/discharge cycles.

Usually the thicker plates consist also of very pure lead around 99.9%.
This is the reason for the higher price.

Battery Depth of Discharge
Different battery types have different types of discharge. This might be ok as long as they aren't used in a combined application:

State of Charge
Sealed or Flooded Lead Acid
Gel battery
AGM battery
100%
12.70+
12.85+
12.90+
75%
12.40
12.65
12.60
50%
12.20
12.35
12.30
25%
12.00
12.00
12.00
0%
11.80
11.80
11.80

(The + stands as an indicator that the true voltage can be higher, depending on the brand)
(To get the real idle voltage the battery must sit disconnected over a period of minimum 24 hours!)

It is very easy to see the difference between different batteries.
Remember: When a battery reaches 10.8V it is totally discharged- this is a dangerous battery level asking for battery damage.
A battery reaching this level of charge must be recharged as quick as possible.
Waiting to long and the battery will take permanent damage.
The slightest damage is costing you valuable battery capacity, serious damage will make the battery not accepting any charge anymore.

General rule of thumb: the less the deep cycle battery is discharged before being properly recharged again, the longer it will last.

Early Aging and deep discharge
The deeper the discharge, the earlier the aging process. There is a certain limit(usually around 80%) when aging starts to be accelerated. Secondly so called sulpahtion of the cell starts. This is a corrosion started at the battery plates.
It is generally said a battery is at the end of its lifecycle when the battery has dropped down to a capacity of 80% of it's nominal capacity.

Type of battery: .... DOD: 80%......DOD: 60%..... life span in years: (DoD: depth of discharge)
Starter Batt not usable for cyclic applications, ...... 5 years
VLRA ................. 50............. 350
GEL................... 600 .............900 ................. , up to 10 years
AGM ................. 250 .............450.................. , up to 8 years
round cell ...........400 ........... 650.................. , up to 10 years
(Optima)

What is a Cycle?
A discharge down to 80% with a complete recharge is called a cycle.
If you discharge a battery only down to 50% of its charge, this is called a half cycle. That means two of these half cycles equal one complete cycle. Now you get the idea, why to discharge the battery only down to 50%.
It simply extends the life expectancy of your battery.

Now discharge your battery only down to 25%. As a result you can do this 4 times before you reach one complete cycle.
So choosing the correct battery size is very important.

As a comparison;
A starter batter does deliver only 50 to 80 cycles. Yes, you are reading right!
But if you know that one time starting the engine consumes only is equal to 0.001 cycle you understand why it is possible to have about 50.000 to 80.000 engine starts with a single automotive battery.



Temperature has a huge impact on life expectancy of batteries:

If the normal temperature of 20°C is doubled life expectancy drops into half!
That means you need to store your battery in an as cool place as possible.
No engine bay temperatures, possibly installation into the shade!


Additional information found on batteries:

CCA, CA, Ah and RC
.
These are the standards that most battery companies use to rate the output and capacity of a battery.

Cold cranking amps (CCA) is a measurement of the number of amps a battery can deliver at 0°F (-17.7°C) for 30 seconds and not drop below 7.2 volts.
A high CCA battery rating is important in starting battery applications, and in cold weather.

Cranking amps (CA) is measured at 32°F (0°C). This rating is also called marine cranking amps (MCA).

Reserve Capacity (RC)
This is the number of minutes a fully charged battery at 80°F (26.6°C) will discharge 25 amps until the battery drops below 10.5 volts.

Amp hour (Ah) is a rating usually found on deep cycle batteries.
The standard rating is an Amp rating taken for 20 Hours.



You know this stuff already?
Then continue here, please:
83 pages of boring battery blabla, you can use to shock your mates...

Enjoy:


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2. The Simple Charging System

Alternator
The alternator creates the voltage in the system.

Just two words about the alternator.
The youngest of our XJ's is already 13years old.
So while pimpin' the power supply system, why not having a quick check on the alternator?

Open the alternator and have a look for the brushes.
They do have a little dot on them.
This little dot is the mark when its time for an exchange.
You are going to put a huge demand on the alternator in the future- why not replaces the brushes and the bearings while at it.
It shouldn't cost you more than 50 bucks to replace the important parts.
It is pricless when you don't have to do this on the trail...

Regulator
The voltage regulator (or regulator) controls the alternator to a specific voltage.
The regulator does not turn off the alternator when the battery is charged. But causes it to produce a constant voltage.
This is all the regulator does!

Charging process explained
Current flow is controlled by the voltage in the battery. The current flow in the battery is determined by its state of charge (SoC). Current flow stops when the the voltage is the same at both sides. In this case the source (alternator+ regulator) and the receiver (battery).

The amount of current flow is determined by the battery, not the regulator.
Note:
It is possible to have voltage without current- but it is not possible to have current flow without voltage.

The maximum possible current flow is controlled by different things:
- size of the alternator
- size of the wiring
- the battery itself

Jeep Charging System

The Jeep (XJ) charging system is a little bit different. Containing all the mentioned parts as described above, the location of the parts is seperated.
In the XJ case this means the voltage regulator is located outside the alternator in the Power control module.
Usually equipped with Nippon Denso alternators the regulator is external.
the function of the regulator is the same as described above, just located somewhere else.

As we will learn later this will be no disadvantage- The truth is: we can use this as an superior advantage.

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3. The Multi-Battery Problem:

When we want to add multiple electrical consumers we run into a problem.
The battery storage space in the engine compartment is limited.
A single battery is not enough to power the accessories built into the Jeep.
Typical additional consumers are:
- winches
- fridges
- stereos
- etc.
The typical problem is that the consumers have either a high current demand in a short time (as winches, stereos) or a continous demand as fridges or illumination.
Sadly the stock battery is limited to size (capacity). So the wish to extend the capacity is understandable.

This is were the problems start.

According to the connected electrical consumer it is important to pick the correct battery type.

Combination of different battery types
When extending the battery capacity it is important to remember a couple of factors.
When combining Batteries in parallel to extend the capacity they must be:
- the same type
- same size
- same age
- same capacity
If not, one battery or the other may be damaged.
Remember:
In this example connections of two or more batteries are done in parallel. advanced connections will be explained later.

The problem we all know is:
If connecting batteries simply in parallel. The starter and the the supply battery will be depleted. We need to find a solution enabling us to charge both batteries with a single alternator but seperating them for their different applications.
The starter battery reserved for vehicle operations.
The supply battery for every additional need.
Both batteries must be charged indepently and operate without influencing the other.

Choosing the right battery
The battery manufacturer has already done a preselection for us.
We just have to pick the appropriate battery for our application

You want to run a fridge over the weekend?
You need a Deep cycle battery.

You want to operate a winch?
You need a Deepcycle battery with the capability to deliver high currents.

Another important factor to check a battery is the so called C-Rate.
A discharge rate may be specified by its charge rate or C-rate, batteries is usually specified at the 5-, 10-, or 20-hour rates (C/5, C/10, C/20).This is the currentwhich can be deliveredconstantly over a period of time.
Example:A100Ahwith a C-rate of 20 (C20) can deliver a current of 5A over a period of 20 hours.

So the first thing you need to do when you think about an additional battery is to calculate your real current demand.

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4. Finding a Solution

Simply adding an additional battery in parallel is neither sufficient nor satisfying.
We need to seperate the starter and the supply batteries.

What is available on the market?
The market offers a couple of choices.
From simple standard relays,high current heavy duty relays, advanced seperating units containg delay and voltage sensitive ciruits,diodes and the highest end the integrated charging and seperating controllers.

Standard Relay
The easiest thing which was used over a long period was the standard 20 or 30A relay. With the ignition switched to on both batteries were paralled.
This worked with a couple of risks.
1: Over time the relay contact surface burned away.
2. In the event of either the starter or supply battery was discharged the relay contacts can stick caused due to the arc.
The relay itself being built to handle only small contacts could start to burn...
The problem is there are still automotive electricans out there doing this- because they learned it this way.

Bigg a$$ relay
Then there is the bigger relay. Functional principle is the same as the small one above.
Just the contacts are big enough to to hold higher currents.
Special relays have 2 contact areas to prevent burn off of the contacts. The is a smaller contact, closing first, taking the arc. After that the bigger, real contact is closing without an arc.
Smart, but still a relay allowing current flow into both directions!
The risks are the same as above plus the bigger the relay the bigger the current to hold the relay. Currents in the size of 500mA to 1A are standard.

Combination of Relay and Voltage Sensitive Device(VSR)
The next step is a combination of relay and voltage sensitive device.
The relay allows to close the contacts only when a certain voltage is reached. This is marketed to achieve a proper charge of the starter battery.
Its more a wish, because in that moment the concats allows flow of current to the supply battery also equlization starts.
In simple and clear words: The supply battery robbs power from the starting battery.


Diodes
Then we have diodes: Diodes offer a couple of advantages:
They do not allow backflow of current. They are real valves.
The do not contain any mechanical parts. There is no wear.
They do have a major disadvantage: The voltage drop.
Depending on the used internal parts voltage drop can be as little as 0.3V or as high as 0.8V.
The problem is that a battery will never reach its full charge when 0.8 V of the charging voltage is missing.

Charge current distributor

The Charge current distributors were developed especially for automotive applications for the charging of two battery banks through generator, chargers or solar panels and replace diode bridges or relays.
Containing semiconductor technology, the charge current is distributed highly efficiently to the battery with the greatest requirements.


B2B charger
The latest device is the so called B2B charger.
It contains diodes and a boosting circuit to allow the receiving battery to be charged with the needed voltage.
Disadvantage here: The maximum charging current is limited.

What standard current charge is available in the Jeep?
Now that we have listed the choices lets have a closer look at the jeep alternator and the consumers which must be feed.

The standard alternator is a huge fella being able to deliver around 117A.
Upgrades are possible, The ZJ Nippon Denso unit with 136A or the Durango ND unit with 160 A are both simple and easy to exchange.
There also bigger choices:
Meangreen with 200A or even 300A alternators. These are mostly made of Delco Remy alternators.

Now lets have a look at the standard consumers to know what is left for fun:
Petrol engines:
Ignition system: 150W (12.5A)
Fuel pump 200W (16.6 A)
Both systems must be used in petrol engines so the alternator maximum usable output of 117A drops down to real 87A. Which is still plenty!
Now add some additional consumers
e.g.:
A/C system : 360W (30A)
standard light system: 145W (12A)
radio : 120W (10A)

We have 87 A available to feed into our batteries.
lets say the starter battery needs 20 A and the supply battery needs 30 A.
No problem, the alternator will feed both batteries with the needed current, because 20A+30A is 50A which is still available from the alternator.

Now lets say the starter battery is full and the supply battery is depleted. Alternator current is still 87A.

The supply battery may need more than 87A. The alternator can not deliver more than 87A so the supply battery draws violently current from the starter battery. Depending on the choosen supply battery equalizing current can exceed a couple of hundred amps!
This is a dangerous situation.

This situation can be difficult in more than a mechanical way.
The deep sudden discharge of the starter battery can leave you stranded if you shut down the engine after a couple of minutes again.
Thankfully there are different solutions to this problem.

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5. Mechanical Relays, Switches, Solenoids:
Lets start from the beginning.
Switches and relays are the simplest method to interrupt current flow or technical expressed to open or to close a circuit.
Maybe also the cheapest method.

Relays switch high power currents using a low control current.

This guarantees safe function of the loads connected (lighting, glow plug system etc.) and protects these and the on-board power supply from excess load or damage.

Relays are essential particularly for high-current applications.
Relays are ideal switches across the complete ambient temperature range of -40°C to 85°C with extremely low contact resistance in the closed state and high cut-off isolation when opened.
Despite their compact design, modern automotive relays are able to switch on currents up to 300 A, and in individual cases are even able to route and switch off short-circuit currents of 500 A for several milliseconds.


Thanks to the very low loss of power at the closed contact and the low electrical control power of around one Watt, automotive relays manage without additional heat sinks. In addition, electromechanical relays do not consume electrical energy when switched off.
Another advantage of relays for automotive applications is their insensitivity to interference voltages originating on the outside of the vehicle or even inside the vehicle itself: there are no problems with electromagnetic compatibility (EMC).

Cut off relays

So called cut-off relays are electronically controlled high-power relays which were developed especially for use with several and large batteries.

Switching and cut-off depend on voltage, so that the starter battery is always charged to a certain extent before the auxiliary battery is added to the circuit.
If the battery voltage drops to below a certain value despite charging, cut-off relays disconnect automatically and reliably prevent the mutual discharge of the two batteries.
Since the switching process takes place without vehicle signal cables, the relays can also be easily retrofitted to modern CAN-bus controlled vehicles.

Many cut-off relays offer additional options such as an emergency-start bridging in order to use the auxiliary battery for start-up if the starter battery is discharged.

There is a major disadvantage with relays:
They are often called seperators or isolators.
The truth is: They are not!
As long as the circuit is open the circuit is interrupted. That's ok.
But as soon as the circuit is closed two batteries are simply connected in parallel. No matter what fidgety circuit is mounted inside the relay.

This is a serious problem!
Why?

The starter battery has usually a very low drop.
Connecting two batteries parallel, the starter battery signals a full charge very soon .
The supply battery (usuallly bigger in size) needs still to be charged.
Since the starter battery signals to be full- the charge current is cut off. I
f not the supply battery is charged and the starter battery is overcharged , causing fail of the starter battery.
This is the real reason, why a relay is simply inpropriate.

Some fellow Jeepers always mention the ability to connect batteries in parallel with a flick of a switch when needed, e.g. starter battery fail.
Well, you can still exchange batteries in all other set-ups too. It just takes a bit longer.

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6. The (real) Electronic Isolator:

Diodes:

To eliminate the multi-battery drain problem, an Diode Isolator acts as a check valve between the batteries, preventing current from flowing from one battery to another.
Each battery is isolated and acts as an independent power source.
So no matter how drained the accessory(aux, supply) batteries become, they will never drain power from the battery we depend on to start our engine. When the current is used from the aux battery, the check valve (diode) stops current flow from the starter battery.

When the alternator is charging, current can only flow in one direction, from the alternator to the batteries.
Each battery then determines the amount of current which flows into it by its own state of charge based on the voltage regulator setting.
With this system, the alternator is protected, and the batteries are protected.

The electronic Isolator is absolutely the only way that proper isolation and control can be accomplished, solving mostly every
multi-battery problem.

But there is sometimes a big disadvantage which must be mentioned.
Diodes cause a voltage drop. So depending on the application counter measures must be performed to avoid this.

This counter measure is not necessary if you are driving a Jeep!

Reminder:
Everybody who tells you "diodes are bad, because of the voltage drop" has never worked with them.

Jeeps with a Nippon Denso alternator and external regulator don't need to compensate for the voltage drop due to the external regulator! Since the voltage measurement is located behind the diode isolator, the external regulator simply increases and corrects the system voltage.

All other vehicles must use a diode isolator with an extra Regulator input (so called R- input), taking the signal from the vehicle voltage regulator to increase the entry voltage into the diode isolator.



Charge Current Distributor:

As already mentioned above CCD'S were developed especially for automotive applications for the charging of two battery banks through generator, chargers or solar panels and replace diode bridges or relays. They are for universal use with 12V and 24V vehicles.


Using semiconductor technology, the charge current is distributed to the battery with the greatest requirements.
The battery with the lowest voltage and thus the lowest charge is always charged first.
Permanent voltage measurement at the inputs and outputs allows the current flow to be controlled in such a way that batteries of different sizes or different levels of discharge can be charged quickly and reliably.
This leads to significantly better and more effective charging of (auxiliary) batteries particularly in short-haul traffic.
In contrast to standard cut-off relays, it is impossible for starter and auxiliary batteries to mutually discharge one another even during charging operation.

This in turn guarantees absolute start-up reliability.

How it works

In contrast to charge current distributors using diode technology, the installation of CCDs does not require any intervention in the generator or its control units. The CCDs can be used with all standard generators, including modern self-excited types.

CCDs charge current distributors distribute the charge current from the generator to two battery banks nearly without any loss. Loss is around 0.1 to 0.3V.
When a charging voltage is applied at the input, the charge current is distributed to the batteries connected to the two outputs according to requirements. The voltage level at all three connection points is measured for this purpose.
If the input voltage is higher than at least one of the outputs, the almost loss-free power MOSFET diodes are connected through in this branch and the charge current can flow.

Once the voltage level of the second output is reached, the battery connected there is charged at the same time.
The permanent voltage measurement allows the charge current to be distributed to the two batteries according to requirements.
This means that battery banks with extremely different current requirements can be charged.
The charge current distributors have two control cables.

Starter and aux batteries can be switched in parallel using an external emergency start button starter for special applications.

No loss is not possible in this application. Even a small loss of 0.1V to 0.3V sums up when higher currents are demanded. This explains the heat sink of the housing...

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