To buy a jk diesel or wait for the jl

[Turismo07]

Originally Posted by Omar

But ?

"But we won’t get the complete package as some new technology – including a new 2.0-litre turbo-petrol and overhauled 3.0-litre V6 turbo-diesel – either isn’t available or has been ruled out for Australia."

"Instead we will get an updated version of the current Pentastar 3.6-litre petrol V6 and a new 2.2-litre four-cylinder turbo-diesel engine to replace the current 2.8-litre oil-burner."

From https://www.motoring.com.au/la-motor...vealed-110010/

Well that sucks...

I guess I'll be keeping my JK until it dies, then looking for something else. I only want a JL Wrangler with the 3.0v6 CRD or a Hemi.

[North Coast Wrangler]

rumour has it they are having trouble making the 3.0L fit in the RHD JL

[Omar]

"Jeep has also announced that a 3.0L EcoDiesel V6 turbodiesel engine will become available on the Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited in Europe beginning in 2019. it will produce approximately 260 hp (194 kW; 264 PS) and 442 lb⋅ft (599 N⋅m). This is for the Europe market. The rest of the world except for North America will get a 2.2l 4 cylinder turbo diesel. North America will not get a diesel Wrangler right now, even though the 3.0 EcoDiesel is used in the North American Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee" from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wrangler_(JL)

I do wonder if this is correct due to the fact that many countries in Europe have Heavy taxes on big diesels and they are trying to bann them in the cities, maybe the smaller 2.2 diesel, but what do I know.

Here in Sweden the annual road tax for the pentastar is about 500 dollars and the current diesel is maybe 900 dollars, almost twize the cost and a new 3 liters V6 is bigger and will probably cost even more in taxes.

[Omar]

Pentastar v6 only for North america?

"The 3.6L Pentastar VVT V6 gasoline engine still remains available from the existing Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited, and is standard on all models, though has been redesigned for improved fuel economy. The engine features an Aisin D478 six-speed manual transmission as standard equipment, with an optional 850RE Torqueflite eight-speed automatic transmission being optional. The engine performance is unchanged from the previous model at 285 hp (213 kW; 289 PS) and 260 lb⋅ft (353 N⋅m). This is only offered on Wrangler models sold in North America.

However, a 2.0L turbocharged Four-Cylinder (Inline-4) gasoline engine is available on all Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited models. Paired exclusively with the 850RE Torqueflite eight-speed automatic transmission, the new engine features a mild hybrid system branded as eTorque for improved fuel economy and off-road performance, and produces 270 hp (201 kW; 274 PS) and 295 lb⋅ft (400 N⋅m) combined. This is the only gasoline engine offered in Europe. In North America, this engine will have late availability, and all Wranglers will launch with the existing 3.6L Pentastar V6 gasoline engine."

[double black offroad]

I will tell you to stay away from the diesel.
Fuel economy compared to the current pentastar is about 2 litres per 100km difference. Cost of petrol to crd is some $6K cheaper. Cost of parts is significantly cheaper.

Unless your planning to do at least 40 to 50000kms a year the sums are against the diesel atm.

And yes ive owned both and can talk from real world experience.

[SnakeDoctor]

3.0 V6 CRD > 3.6 > 2.8 CRD > 3.8

It should be obvious but this is the order of engine "good"ness for current / legacy motors.

Where the 2.0 Petrol Turbo and the 2.2 diesel fit in is anyones guess but i'd be more than surprised if they both aren't better than the 2.8 CRD.

[Krump_7]

With the advent of the new auto transmission in the jl what are the likely benifiets to offroading as compared to a diesel. I have a petrol 4x4 now and it sucks filling it up 1km away from driving out the fuel station. A recent trip camping on some beaches returned embarrassing fuel per/100km figures in my current 4x4, which has put me off ever owning a petrol 4x4 again. Are the diesel and v6 jeeps really that much similar in efficiency. Any number under 16-18 ish lph offroad in low range would be heaven for me.