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Be interested to see what the front throws, you may want to be sitting down when you do...lol,lol.....
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Be interested to see what the front throws, you may want to be sitting down when you do...lol,lol.....
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Front will be interesting, but from previous discussions, it’s easier to exceed the rear axle limit on the GCs
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Be interested to see what the front throws, you may want to be sitting down when you do...lol,lol.....
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Bullbar & winch...93kg
Plus Led lights ~ 98kg
Aux tank full 100kg (diesel 840g/litre=63kg)
So how do you reckon I'm doing??
2nd battery plus fridge 57kg add the slab of tinnies??
Guess I'm off to the weigh bridge with the KK hitched.
Bit off topic is roof racks and loading for on road and reduction for offroad..With 68kg max on a GC ..That can't be changed regardless of how the rack is rated..When you reduce the 68kg by 1/3 (according to Rhino) and subtract the weight of the rack (conservative figure say 27kg) doesn't leave much..Correct me if I'm wrong.
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OK...got the weight...just inside capacity Drover.
Me at 92kg in the driver seat, near full of fuel...Front total 1386kg...Axle capacity listed 1452kg. I have a spare 66kg...lol. If the bride was in the car I reckon I'd be right on axle capacity.
As I wrote the front end has a steel ARB bar, spotlights and a steel bash plate, on the roof is a full length Chief aluminium rack and an awning...as well as the snorkel up front...it all adds up. Probably the catch can should be included.
The unsprung extra weight of the bigger rims and tyres comes in to play too, so in fact I might have closer to 80kg spare axle capacity....even then, if I did have a winch it'd likely be touch & go whether it would exceed capacity loaded with bodies and gear.
If the scalies weighed me I doubt they'd do me the favour by deducting the approx weight of heavier rims and tyres either...I would complain though.
Certainly if I loaded up the roof rack it would tip it over, but I have no plans to do that. The only extra stuff that goes up there are the max trax which weigh 18kg spread between front & rear....more to the rear.
The rear is good, but I didn't have the drawer, tools, loaded fridge, or 2nd battery on board I'll weigh it later with all that stuff in so I know what all that weighs.
Total rear axle = 1167kg...capacity 1678kg, So i have 511kg to play with...when the van is on that'll be less say 225kg
Total "tare" 2553kg as it stands.
I reckon 150kg would pull up the extra stuff I load in the back...but...anything forward of the rear axle will impact the front axle loading.
...when the van is plonked on the tow bar, the hitch itself is actually 1 metre behind the rear axle so it will likely weigh heavier due to the pendulum effect.
I'll have to weigh the setup hooked up to get true front and rear as the front may well lose a few KG's as well.
I don't use a WDH as I don't particularly like them, and have no need anyway given the light weights...
So there we are, it's legal providing i am mindful of the "empty" weights...
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The bride will push it over for sure..............
Mine comes very close to yours front 1.46t, rear 1.2t so very close.... and the front was with 2 bums...
Really its only a problem if you get put on the pads, the roads I usually travel be very unlucky to see a blue light let alone a maroon light...........
I just rotated my wheels, bluddy Jeep must be the most stupid jacking point vehicle on the road, I hope I don't have to try and do a change in rough country........ proper axles and a chassis, I'm about over this unibody rubbish.
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I'm lazy, I just trot down to the local Jax Tyres and they do the rotate for free as I buy my tyres from them.
Given that you would be plain unlucky to be pulled up after fueling, the fuel burn should take care of some kg's over the front.
As you would be well across too Drover, the front axle would always be over with full fuel tanks.
Back in the trucking days doing triples to Darwin we'd always fuel at Cloncurry to get to Darwin rather wait to Katherine, as the weigh bridge is on the way in to Katherine. That way we could fuel at Katherine after the weigh bridgebeing it is on the way in from the South, then the fuel burn Katherine / Darwin / Katherine would see front axle weights ok on the way back through if pulled in.
I'm pretty happy with the weights, just need to throw the van on now and weigh across all axles...
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Im a punter...fk all this 'scarey' stuff...just load sensible/even and adequate...if Im over...fine me....ol mate thats 'doin the job' is gonna have one of the worst days in his life...not career...he'll quit that arvo...which 'numbnut' wakes up n thinks...'you know what...think I'll get a career fkg people over...no better jobs out there...plus..I'll be in control....yeah...thats a good idea'....then along comes 'reality'....there's a few of us out there....sooooo happy Im not tryin to 'meet deadlines'...undercut my own pocket..deal with embeciles...work myself to exhaustion...all to have some fktard tell me...'you doin this wrong'....is my 'love of the transport industry showing ?...sorry...I'll tuck it back in'
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Yeah, righto. I get your drift...
I actually dont worry about when i pass a GC Jeep going in the opposite direction towing a big van. They dont worry me.
But every time i pass any kind of twin cab ute going the other way I automatically switch on and expect the unexpected.
All good. Cheers.
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