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Old 13-10-2018
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My Australian 2006 KJ Cherokee 2.8 Diesel with 185K Km, started showing fault codes
P1265 and P0673. Tried clearing the codes a few times, and also removing the battery terminals overnight, but no luck. Jeep drives fine and no smoke or lack of power. City consumption is just above 10L /100. Starts just fine as I am located in sunny QLD so glow plug issues would have minimal affect.

Using Torque Pro, P0673 shows an issue with glow plug on Cylinder 3, so I assume it will need to be replaced. P1265 shows also shows an issue with Glow Plug #3.

I assume it might be time for new injectors, or could it be something else ?
Can I just ignore the errors until I get it fixed at the next timing belt change ?

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Bear in mind that glow #3 and Glow plug #2 sometimes could have the harness swapped over....so maybe it is not actually #3 failing!

Before removing #3 try swapping the connectors over on the two glow plugs....if fault still calls out #3 then there is nothing wrong with the plug itself but is a wiring problem ie. bad connection or wire chafing to engine.

before pulling out the injectors try using a good brand Diesel Injector Cleaner in the fuel tank.
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I meant to say it may be time for new glow plug previously, and not injectors.
I think my injectors are fine as there is no smoke and consumption seems to be norm.
Thanks for the tip around checking the wiring first. I also read I can do a simple continuity test on the glow plugs also.

How are the glow plugs numbered ?
What glow plugs does everyone get here in Australia (cold starting not a big concern here in QLD) ?

At 185K km I don't mind swapping the stock glow plugs, as I heard the ceramics can sometimes break.
Being in QLD cold starting is not really an issue, and I was going to get 7v Etechno metal. I am sure I am still on 7v programming.

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Went onto the Bosch website and the recommended GP were 0250202038 (11v).
NGK recommended Y1031J which is also 11v.

However these seem to be rated at 11v, and I am pretty sure I have 7v.
Is there an issue running these Bosch GP 0250202038 in my 2006 CRD ?

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I was just quoted $1200 (Brisbane North) to replace the 4 glow plugs. They will also clean the intake since it has to come out. Shop mentioned the NGK and Bosch parts were correct I listed above, and the 11v rating on the Bosch means they can handle up to 11v. Shop advised I should get this done soon as there could be long term damage otherwise.

I can get the Bosch 0250202038 (made in France) plugs for $32 each from Repco (on clearance).
I will have to do this myself, as I can't afford $1200 at the moment (currently looking for work).

There is also the question if I have to get anything else done like flashing the ECU.

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The original glow plugs would have been bosch 7 volt ceramics which where discontinued because of tip breakages and are no longer made. I bought etechno plugs from the US. as they are 7 volt metal tips ( not quite as good as the ceramics but not an issue in or climate). There should be a yellow sticker on the front timing cover that states 7 volt plugs.

Jeep then came out with 5 volt replacement plugs but your suppose to get a new 5 volt glow plug relay with them, however plenty of guys in the US have run the 5 volt plugs with the original relay and not had issues.

I think a lot of the parts listings are for the early KJ diesels before the motor updates in 2005 and are the 11 volt plug.

It not a hard job once you remove the inlet pipe just be patient and don't add any side load when undoing them , they have been known to break the heads of and then they are a whole world of hurt to remove.

And wow $1200 to replace the plugs thats a rip off right there.
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The Bosch 11v glow plug is for the earlier 2.5 CRD.

I ordered Etechno 1 GX3123 7v glow plugs from dieselglowplug.com in Italy at a fraction of the cost the local dealers (South Africa) wanted for the OEM glow plugs. Although the ceramic glow plugs were still functional I decided to replace due to horror stories regarding ceramic tips breaking off.....
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