Winches

[xjdavid]

Not sticking for Chinese winches but how many have you seen fail.

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[jtb007]

Originally Posted by xjdavid

Not sticking for Chinese winches but how many have you seen fail.

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a few.......

winch is usually a last resort, why would anyone want to temp fate by skimping.......

[jtb007]

i guess oits like with anything though, buy the best you can afford.......

personally i would take a second hand warn over a brand new tigerzaldisupercheap winch

[SeaComms]

Originally Posted by bruggz351

Ok. Stupid question time..

Q. How do you tell an external brake from an internal??

I've had nothing to do with winches, hence the question.

cheers

Usually from the manufacturer specs unless you want to pull it apart yourself!

The standard in-the-drum brake that most winches use sort of similar to a cars drum brake, in that its mounted inside the cable drum. The difference being its designed as a one way brake, allowing the drum to turn to spool the line in, but not back out. If you run the winch in reverse (to let some cable back out) this is working against the brakes and will generate heat in the drum that the rope is wrapped around - not ideal!

An external brake is the common name given to any braking system obviously not inside the drum, the Tigerz uses an external two way braking system that not only does not generate heat inside the drum (so is ideal for fitting rope), but also allows you to winch in and out out equally under load.

[layback40]

Winch threads are a bit like oil threads. most have spent their money & are out to self justify what they have done.
Then there are those with a vested interest ~ they sell a particular brand.
Like with most things out of China, the initial ones will be junk, they get a bad name & then they improve their product. I am sure the same thing happened with warn when they first made winches.
Where are the components of warn made? Is there any one actually making 12v electric motors in Australia? At best we can assume that there maybe some one assembling them here.
Would it be reasonable to say that any winch will fail if abused enough?

[jtb007]

Originally Posted by layback40

Winch threads are a bit like oil threads. most have spent their money & are out to self justify what they have done.
Then there are those with a vested interest ~ they sell a particular brand.
Like with most things out of China, the initial ones will be junk, they get a bad name & then they improve their product. I am sure the same thing happened with warn when they first made winches.
Where are the components of warn made? Is there any one actually making 12v electric motors in Australia? At best we can assume that there maybe some one assembling them here.
Would it be reasonable to say that any winch will fail if abused enough?

absolutly, as the chinese stuff is only new to the market, it hasnt stood the test of time......... ifthe chinese ones were so good then the comp guys would be using them...... but they stick to warn.... why, its a far better product to start with.

of course any winch will die if abused long enough, but there are warn winches that have gone from car to car to car to shed to car to car again and still running.......

id like to see how many of the chinese branded ones will be able to do that.

yes parts for warn may infact be made in china, but its the QA/QC process that is used that makes the difference, with the aldi winches at under $500.00 you can bet your bullbar that the same quality processes arent used that are used on the warns.......

[Army Barbie]

All depends what your needs are. In my opinion, high mounts are only useful for winch comps and heavier trucks. If you're a social wheeler a low mount will be fine.

Cable vs rope.. Cable is heavier and more dangerous if it snaps. When my winch goes back on my Jeep, it will have rope not cable.

For social wheelers, a winch is a great recovery tool. I have used mine to get out of bog holes, and have had it hooked up to a tree when i've been on the verge of rolling a few times. If I didn't have my winch, I would have rolled at least twice.
Everyone has a budget, but considering what they're used for, you want to rest easy knowing that when you need it to work, it will. I'm not saying you should all run out and sink thousands into a twin motor Gigglepin, but brands such as Warn have a great name for a reason.

I've got a Warn X8000i on my TJ and it has been great for self recovery and recovering others.

It has overheated once (had to pull a dead WJ up a steep hill) which made one of the brushes in the motor stick but I fixed it simply by pulling the motor apart and un sticking the brush. I pulled all the gears out, de-greased and re-greased and put back together. Considering I had never done it before, it was easy. Parts are easy to get as well.

I'm not a die-hard Warn extremist, but I know my Warn will outlast a Tigerz.