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Howdy **long time lurker, first time poster...

I've got a 2016 JKU (Rhino if you're interested) that's bone stock apart from a Backbone system. I'm new to the offroading scene but after a recent trip to Fraser Island, I'm more than hooked.

I'm looking at potentially installing a lift kit (surprise, Newbie with a lift question), but in reality the majority of the kind of driving I'd be looking at doing doesn't really require anything over the top. One thing though is towing, I've got a boat that compresses the rear suspension a fair bit **similarly on the Fraser trip we were dragging our bums around on the majority of inland tracks (fully laden with three of us, rooftop tent and awning plus all of our gear)...

So I was wondering what people think about running a spacer lift and rear spring airbag helpers? Ideally I'll be going to bigger tyres soon too **nothing mental, probably around the 33" mark A/T's...

Sorry if this is the usual rookie stuff **I've not had too much of a chance to fully comb through the forums... but I'm working on it!

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Don't waste your money on spacers, go straight for 2 to 2.5" spings and shocks to do it properly.

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Yep I agree, go for some proper springs and shocks

I never hear bad things about flexy coils from Murchison products

Call them up and they will send you the correct ones for your jeep (based on how much stuff you have added, and the lift you want)

Mine are paired with entry level Fox shocks and they ride nicely

The reason I recommend this, is that you can then use spacers in the future if you ever need to level anything out after adding more to the jeep

I also run airbags in the rear coils, they have been brilliant and I wish I had got them 5 years earlier.

I got them from airbagman. I selected a bag length that would entirely fill the space between the bumpstops, I also got the high pressure canvas sleeves (not for towing but for the instances where the rear suspension is flexing a lot and the bag is under high pressure, also to protect the bags)

I would install the springs and let them settle before taking measurements for the airbags
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^Agree with above. You are going to be on-road much more than off, so I would do it right and get a kit that is more than just spacers so you maintain the street handling. It will cost more at the front end, but if you are in fact hooked, spacers will only keep you happy a short while and you'll have to get a lift kit anyway at the back end.

A lot of options as to which kit to go with - so shop around and narrow it down and you can ask some opinions here as there is bound to be someone running every kind out there. Good luck!
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I used a spacer lift on stock suspension for 4 years instead of going to proper springs and shocks upgrade. Wish I had done it sooner. I've developed squeaks and rattles that I've had to address from resisting the upgrade, and in all truth its probably cost me more to repair those than it would have to put a schmick suspension system in earlier.

Research your lift depending on your needs and spend the money on getting what you want long term. Remember that every inch over 2" lift is likely to cost exponentially more due to the number of things that have to change to accomodate the change (eg. 3" means possibly drive shafts, control arms, etc.)
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I don't think you will save much by going to spacers, its about $250 - $300 for a kit. You can get 2" spring/shock combos for $550 on ebay. They all use cheap shocks but look around and you can get a set with good quality coils. The kit I have came with Lovells, +100kg fronts and +200kg rears, some cheap big bore shocks that have worked fine so far.

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As already mentioned, don't bother with spacers, just save your time and buy springs and shocks for a 2" lift. This size lift is legal and doesn't require engineering or any other components to straighten out your drive line. Best of all, if you are so inclined, you can fit it all yourself in your driveway.

If you don't want to spend big, there are always 2" kits available online or in the for sale section on these forums. Though to get the best fit for your needs buy them from a 4x4 store so they can tailor it to your requirements.

As for rear airbags, these are a great investment. I have them in mine due to doing a lot of towing of a camper trailer. Just make sure if you order them online that you get the correct measurements of your springs otherwise they might not fit.
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Also remember, if it is important to you, most states follow; up to 2" ok, >2" get a engineering certificate if you want to stay legal.

Hence the great number of 2" lifts.
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Cheers lads excellent advice all-round... The spacer lift is dead, long live the lift kit... really appreciate you mob taking the time to answer my questions...

Now, the $64,000 question, which one?

Some were very kind enough to suggest some excellent options. I've been doing a bit of research and at this stage in time I'm leaning towards the AEV kit with the brackets. Dunno why, I guess I kind of like that they, AEV, appear to be somewhat aligned with the factory I'm super keen to maintain the 'factory' look as long as possible ... Anyway, I'm very keen on the idea of installing it myself, not because I'm a tight arse, more that I've got a 13-year-old son whom I want to get off the bloody iPad and out getting his hands dirty just like my dad did when I was his age (except we didn't have iPads... Commodore 64's were only just a 'thing' ...), so that's a consideration.

Ultimately I plan on getting front and rear bumpers, run a fridge etc but most importantly, it also needs to be a daily driver...

Cheers in advance...
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