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now you know why I use minus 30 instead of r134a , so im not replacing the o rings and pipes so on so on , and pag1 oil and the cost of a manifold and a suction pump , and a tin of hychil for $25 is way under the cost of one pipe from jeep (if you can find one)
and yes the wj I just sold is still running it, and has been over a year and gets way WAY colder than r134a . the square one is a wg , the rounded one is the wj , over in the states there all wj, but here after the side airbags and so on were called wg ,
if you never done air con in a car before , and not quite up to doing such things , then leave it to the shop guys , but just remember it will cost a lot .
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Did your compressor internally disintegrate ? If so yes it should be changed and the system flushed, the TXV would also need changing and each section of the system flushed and then nitrogen charged and flushed again. But if there was only a leak and the refrigerant purged out then why would the rec need changing? The rec acts as a oil reservoir and moisture absorber (plus gas reservoir to stop high pressure gas entering the compressor in TXV system like you have) where moisture might have got into the system. If the full system was not open to the air for a long period of time, like weeks or months then the desiccant would be fine because it would have been submerged in the PAG oil anyway. The remaining moisture in the system can be burnt out on vacuuming the system. Ideally it should be vacuumed for 30 mins, left 15 to check for leaks and then vacuumed for at least another 30 mins (I usually leave it on vacuum again for 1 hour). This would make sure all moisture is burnt out before recharging. Like Bleet, I have been using the Hychill for about 2 years and it beats R134a any day. Lower head pressure, less fuel consumption, works past 40 deg C on a hot humid day when R134 pushes out 15deg and hychill 4 deg.
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Thanks all for your input..I don't have the knowledge or equipment to do this myself... The compressor lost all its gas looks like it spewed out all of the seals particularly the one that separates the front section from middle ...there was dye and oil everywhere. I did get a new txv. Now it seems just to flush and regas plus the accumulator is going to cost as much as all the other components I bought! Thanks Jeep for not continuing to make serviceable parts.
It's a shame you guys aren't in Brisbane I would have been happy to pay to get it fixed properly by someone who knows these vehicles.
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I use to live in Brisbane (most of my life) ...........but then I woke up LOL
the hardest thing for someone to learn is taking a interest in the thing, you own a jeep , (even any car really) it helps to learn a little about , for even knowing a little can save you . sometimes I get a little mixed up due to so many cars I have to know about , but my wg overland is done , so I am now goingf to look at another projest , I live in a rural area that helps , so a willys in mind or early jeep with the mods to run unleaded in the engine and tart it to do a bit of climbing (the fun type)
just be sure of the money you spend , and who ever is fixing doesn't rip you .
remember though it is your jeep , the one jeep , your baby (if you know what I mean)
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FWIW I also highly recommend Hi-Chill 30 hydrocarbon gas as a refrigerant...... it makes for a much colder A/C output, especially in hot climates (Brisbane??), it runs at much lower pressures, so less wear and tear on A/C components and better fuel economy (engine doesn't work as hard to run the compressor pump).

134a hasn't been used in Europe for years as it has been found to be bad for the environment, burns into a poisonous gases, and poisonous for humans and animals..... so throw out all the B.S. that was trotted out when it first came out......current "golden boy" is R1234yf, but it has already found to have serious drawbacks.
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Are you not concerned that hychill is flammable?


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ran it in the wj (and still is and works really well) for over a year without it being touched , rand in the kj for same time . both cars are sold now and still both are running and work well , the main problem with AC ias leaks , and most shops seem to over charge the system , hychill only needs 30% of the actual weight, yes it is a lpg , but 240 (one tin)grams of it really is not enough to cause trouble , unless you are silly enough to run lines against the exhaust . and as long as you oil the o rings and oil the system it is far far colder and work quicker , works better than r134a , and can help to seal trouble spots. so 230 grams of minus 30 compared to 700 odd of r134a , helps fuel , engine stress , and gets colder ? why not ? and far cheaper .
I had a perfect system in my wj , until I got it recharged , paid 130 bucks for the system to be overcharged by gas and it blew out my hi/low pressure switch.
never again . I read up on it looked around for something that could be used rather than r134a , bought myself the tools , and never turned back since.
if it was like a fridge cool room of like 40 kg , yeah I would worry , but it is so little gas would be lucky if ever it did ignite to singe the eye brows.
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How does the hychill help the fuel and engine stress?


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The A/C system holds only a few grams of Hi -Chill 30.......compared to about 70 litres of LPG in an Petrol/LPG vehicle.....and many more in pure LPG cars.....City taxis nearly ALL run on LPG.......I'm not aware of any explosions or fires in them.
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