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I think to a degree the issue of getting a lift height from where you are now is not totally straight forward as with the age of the WJ/G very few will not be sitting on sagged original suspension. Also bear in mind trying to get a (for arguement sake) 2" lift over the original upcountry height puts you into the realm of possible handling/DW issues compared to getting a 2" lift over the standard suspension height. I see no evidence that the geometry of the upcountry vehicles is different to the standard vehicles hence you are looking at the possible issues of lifting 3"+. Also bear in mind some of the less knowledgeable suspension resellers and even some of the main suppliers might not even know what model their original lift specs are based on.

This issue is also with the 80 Series Cruiser. The first generation to 93 was 1" higher than the rest yet you will not likely find a suspension shop that can tell what their lift heights are based on.
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If you look at your shockies the Jeep ones have a Chrysler logo on them, if they have and you haven't got a big block under the springs then No Lift, so you would be safe to go a 2" lift ,any higher and do a search for what is needed to be done, a lot of $$ and stuffing around.
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It sounds like 700m is standard. I am going to guess that I have a factory lift that has sagged a bit because there was no mention of a lift when I bought the Jeep. This makes me think that I am going to want a 4" lift. I liked the idea of a 2" lift from where I sit now, but I am glad I saw this thread as I would have been a bit upset if I bought a 2" lift and only got a centimetre of lift. I am still open to be told that I am wrong. I would rather like to be told that I am wrong and that I still have room for 2" in there.
No it's not - what made you come to that conclusion??

For starters, let's get one thing straight - from now on can everyone please use the measurement from centre of wheel hub to arch for the measurement? Measuring from the bottom lip of the rim only confuses the situation for everybody!!

Right, now that we have that sorted, the facts:

- American WJ's (and Aussie non-Up Country suspension package equiped WJ's ie. Overland) have a standard ride height of 457mm (F) and 464mm (R)
- Aussie models with the Up-Country package were about 3/4" (19mm) higher, so for simplicity's sake, let's say somewhere between 475mm and 485mm all round
- American lift kits are based on the American standard lift height as the base, where as Australian kits seem to be based on the Up-Country height as the base
- Your WJ is measuring in at around 484mm (F) and 494mm (R) based on your rim measurement

Based on the above information, you either have:

- An Up-Country package that has not sagged, but actually increased in height by around 10mm (extremely unlikely)
- An Up-Country kit with 10mm packers which has not sagged at all (highly unlikely)
- A 50mm spacer lift with sagging non-Up-Country suspension (not likely)
- A 25mm spacer lift with sagging Up-Country suspension (also not likely)
- An American lift kit which is 2" above standard that has sagged (possible)
- A small spring lift kit of between 25-40mm which has sagged by quite a bit (most likely)

Honestly, looking at your photos I definitely reckon you have a lift kit of some type installed (based purely on the height) and your rear shocks also have rubber boots over them which indicates that they are not standard. Why don't you climb under the car with a torch and have a look for some brand names or part numbers on the springs or shocks so that we have something to go by? If you're not sure, just take photos and post them on here?

Here's a photo of my WJ with a sagging Up-Country kit before I installed the IRO 3" kit. You will notice it is much lower than yours in the photo above - I'd say at least 25-30mm.



Forget the 4" lift unless you want to go long arm and be prepared to spend big $$$ on the things you should. Not saying it's not possible, but for what you want it's overkill. Go for an Aussie 40 or 50mm lift or an American 3" IRO at the most - even then you may still have spend some $$$ - I know I did and still have to in order to make things work well.
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Hanna, what's that puddle below the tranny? LOL .
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Hanna, what's that puddle below the tranny? LOL .

Haha - that's actually just a pothole in the road full of rainwater. It was the flattest bit of road around my neighbourhood when I was looking for a before photo location.

Believe it or not, my WJ is the first car I've ever owned that doesn't have a fluid leak of some description!!
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It was just like a dog, pissing with excitement with idea of a new lift.
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Nicely thought out and put together Hanna
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