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I've spent countless hours reading post on XJ cooling from around the world.
A lot of info regarding the flow thought the aux cooler. A lot of people advocate the opposite of what I think.
I'm of the view that the hot auto oil goes to the aux cooler first so as to take advantage of the significant difference in oil temp to air temp. the greater the difference the greater the cooling , then on to the radiator heat exchanger entering the rad from the bottom and exiting from the top so as to eliminate air locks and to cool the rad if the oil has been cooled to below 100'C which is should have, this would also stabilise the auto oil on startup. the rad will try to take the oil up to around 100'C but I think the oil doesn't stay in the rad long enough to increase the temp much , based on how long the transmission takes to warm with the rad at 100'C.
If my theory is right , the hotter the oil gets the greater the cooling effect of the Aux.
I initially hooked mine up trany- aftermarket cooler-rad -trany the sump temperature ran constantly 85-95 and spiked to 110 when working hard.
now it runs trany- rad- aftermarket cooler- trany Temps are 65-75 and have yet to see it crack a 100.
I copied gojeeps set up. Taurus fan and cooler
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IMHO ...... theres way too much emphasis on this thing ......



The in-tank heat exchanger .... being thought of as a "cooler" .... at least on RHD export models.

It may be referred to as a "water to oil cooler" in the FSM .... and it might function that a way a bit in the U.S. .... where its fitted in the outlet tank which should be about 20' cooler than the inlet tank .... as the pic in this threads first post, displays ............... but it doesnt do much in the way of cooling - in aust XJs.

As with most yank vehicles .... the preoccupation is with making heat ... not reducing it ..... because of C.A.F.E., and Emissions targets, and weather etc .... and the heat exchanger makes heat for the tranny oil .... with perhaps some stabilisation of the oil temp.

If it was any good as a "cooler" .... there wouldnt be so many yanks fitting aftermarket coolers.


Soooo .... back to RHD export models ....

Effectively and in IMHO .... There is no aux tranny "oil cooler" on an aust XJ.

I'm pretty sure that most people, myself included ... looked at the aust XJ and thought ... bewdy - they fitted an aux cooler for our climate and general tasking.

.... But since the heat exchanger is in the inlet tank .... the aux cooler, fitted as standard on our models - rather than being an option as in the U.S. ...... Only counteracts the stupidity of putting the heat exchanger in the hot part of the radiator ... rather than providing additional cooling.

......... So to improve the tranny oil cooling on a RHD .... either the dinky little factory aux cooler has to be replaced with a larger more effective unit to compensate for the positioning of the heat exchanger ...... and provide additional cooling ......

..... or as some have done - go the long road and fit a yank radiator .... which will then require some monitoring to see how well the factory aux cooler performs in the vehicles operating conditions .... or whether it still needs an upgrade, as many in the U.S. find it does.


Just remember the climate. Yank car manufacturer TSBs are full of 30'/32' plus temps being described as very high / abnormally high, ambient temps.

Which places our common temps of 25'-30' in their - high temp range .... and the temp design parameters of yank vehicles are for their - normal temps, with a bit of coverage either side of that - before the need for optional aux factory coolers or one of the better, optional factory radiators, etc.

The nescessity of having the tranny oil heated in australia probably only applies to someone who delivers early morning brekkies to jindabyne snow resorts ..... in the middle of winter

yes yes ... I know its all a repost ......
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well said Carves...i agree completely
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I've had my transmission cooling system configured the same as rainman and found it works great, I suppose if I moved to a higher climatic region I'd have reconsider... adding that elusive temperature gauge would be a good idea too!

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I'm all for ditching the radiator oil heater.
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well said Carves...i agree completely
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The oil heater has moved from ordinary to pathetic.
I've all ways wondered about the secret inside the radiator.
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I initially hooked mine up trany- aftermarket cooler-rad -trany the sump temperature ran constantly 85-95 and spiked to 110 when working hard.
now it runs trany- rad- aftermarket cooler- trany Temps are 65-75 and have yet to see it crack a 100.
I copied gojeeps set up. Taurus fan and cooler
not to repeat what you said tranny rad oil cooler tranny is the factory way right?
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