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just to give an example of how ineffective this stuff is. we had a bit of rain in perth yesterday and after the dry summer the roads became pretty greasy. taking off from traffic lights promoting wheel spin was real easy as the diesel came onto boost. got whel spin in 1st second and third. wheels spun freely and car moved forawad under wheel spin till engine hit about 3000 rpm, then as i backed off it seemed the vehicle swayed a bit as one wheel gripped and another was braked by the abs system. so it seems system is totally useless if both wheels spin. also then tried a few fast corners to test esp. turned into corner and hung a four wheel drift , with rear wheels spinning and steering wheel on oposite lock. as the truck was at the maximum drift angle on lots of opposite lock the esp light came on and i could feel the abs working. but by this time i was already about to pull out and straighten up. tried it on both wheel locks in case sensor on one side was faulty. this stuff really doesn't come on till it's pretty much too late and is obviously not very sensitive. seemed to me that the esp cut in right on the limit of my ability to correct the vehicle. had i pushed it any harder it would have spun out and i doubt the esp could have stopped it. i dont doubt what others have said about the problems in sand. there is a lot of wheel spin in sand and the braking effect is not welcome at any time. but just from what i tried on the blacktop , the only part of the whole system that is really going to be of any practical use under practical driving conditions is the normal abs braking function. don't know what others have experienced, but that was my experience after having tested the whole thing on wet greasy roads, where it is supposed be of maximum use.
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If both wheels are spinning at the same time and no traction control kicked in the computer must just pick up left to right wheel speed only and not front to rear aswell, which is a good thing.

Have u ever given a car with TC a boot full to get across a intersection only for it to kick in and leave u in the middle of oncoming traffic with no power.
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Also make sure you have your "COOL RIDGE" bottle handy one of the keys to Crazy Nuts sucess.

Keep the fluids up!
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If both wheels are spinning at the same time and no traction control kicked in the computer must just pick up left to right wheel speed only and not front to rear aswell, which is a good thing.

Have u ever given a car with TC a boot full to get across a intersection only for it to kick in and leave u in the middle of oncoming traffic with no power.
no can't say i have, but i thought tha was the way it was supposed to work. if you tramped it away from the lights, the TC cut in and stopped you doing a burnout from the lights. but apparently not so.
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If both wheels are spinning at the same time and no traction control kicked in the computer must just pick up left to right wheel speed only and not front to rear aswell, which is a good thing.

Have u ever given a car with TC a boot full to get across a intersection only for it to kick in and leave u in the middle of oncoming traffic with no power.
the joys of almost being hit by a truck ... just as you think there is a big enough gap then it cuts out ...

mines petrol rubi ... and it cuts in all the time ... but soon as i lose traction esp kicks in, if i plant it off the lights esp kicks in ... constantly something wants to stop me from being able to speed ... its just no FUN ...
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David, you are a hoon!!!

I wonder if they have ever confiscated a bloody long wheel base Wrangler under the hoon regulations from a 60 year old fart like you yet? , that would majke the papers!!

I am glad your south of the river, I was worried I might be coming the other way.

Go grey power!!!!
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This is one of the best mods you can do to your JK essential for 4WDing.

CrazyNuts well done for finding out the esp disable wire. And extremely easy to do as well.

I have tested this in Robe sand driving and was glad how well it can perform without the ESP.

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Just make sure you clear all the errors this throws up to the ECU (before going to the dealer for any warrant work ).

Great tool for this is the one that Wooders sells for $225. As expected this will tell the ECU that the Dynamics Sensor has failed as it's not responding (but we know that's not the case).
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I took my JK in for some warranty work last Friday and the dealer sort of did this mod for me.

They wiped the dynamic control module (as a recall/reprogram thing) and couldn't write back it.

Now I am waiting for a new part and driving with the "safety" systems off.

They were not going to give me my car back, because there was no ABS.
I was cautioned about how dangerous it is without ABS and ESP.

HA! I remember the days before ABS, ESP and all the other abbreviated BS.
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