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01-02-2017
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Dont think it was over revving. Put it in low 1st at the bottom of the pinches & planned to just walk up, but it seemed to just bog down then rev up again.
Would it change up if it was reving to high or would it just hit a rev limiter & stay in the chosen gear considering it was put into first & not left in auto?
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02-02-2017
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Would it change up if it was reving to high or would it just hit a rev limiter & stay in the chosen gear considering it was put into first & not left in auto?
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From my experience on sand, as soon as it gets to only moderately high revs then it changes up to second. Real PITA if you're in first low for a reason... Also noticed that if you leave it in auto and put it in low it starts in second. Makes sense I suppose but just interesting, really seems as though they don't want us using first low
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03-02-2017
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Originally Posted by silverfox1111
Dont think it was over revving. Put it in low 1st at the bottom of the pinches & planned to just walk up, but it seemed to just bog down then rev up again.
Would it change up if it was reving to high or would it just hit a rev limiter & stay in the chosen gear considering it was put into first & not left in auto?
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This is almost the single most annoying feature of the GC for me, not holding the gear in manual mode. I had two Pajeros before this and they used hold the gears when selected and just rev to the limiter. Seems crazy to me, and i have had the same issue in sand where you need the momentum but when you get to speed it changes up
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29-03-2017
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Agree 100% with Phoenie... If the f?"@#ing thing would just stay in the selected gear, it would be so much easier to drive in low range.
Mine changes by itself when going downhill....just plain dangerous . It must be programmed by a dickhead computer nerd who has never driven a 4wd.
Silverfox, mine does exactly the same on uphills.......just when you need a bit of momentum, the computer shuts off the power & you then get that ridiculous surging & spinning to get going again ( if you can !!! )
Great all roads tourer, but I'm just about over this thing as a 4wd.
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29-03-2017
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I'm new to the WK2, but from reading the issue, it sounds as though it would be a very easy code change, unless there is a known issue with locking the gearbox in a given gear.
Maybe an organised email, to FCA could come up with an answer, one way or the other.
With the car changing gears going down hill, don't they all have hill descent control?
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29-03-2017
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Originally Posted by 08crd
I'm new to the WK2, but from reading the issue, it sounds as though it would be a very easy code change, unless there is a known issue with locking the gearbox in a given gear.
Maybe an organised email, to FCA could come up with an answer, one way or the other.
With the car changing gears going down hill, don't they all have hill descent control?
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The response I got when I queried it was exactly that, that is what the hill descent is for. Whilst the HDC does work very well, it would be nice to have the option. And I agree it should only be a software programming fix I would have thought.
As for going uphill, I haven't had the surging etc but got stuck on a sand hill towing my camper when i was trying to keep momentum by staying in second low but kept changing up to third and ran out of speed and stopped. As mine is a MY14 it doesn't have it but I guess they would argue again that you you the ascent control for this as well.
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29-03-2017
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The response I got when I queried it was exactly that, that is what the hill descent is for. Whilst the HDC does work very well, it would be nice to have the option. And I agree it should only be a software programming fix I would have thought.
As for going uphill, I haven't had the surging etc but got stuck on a sand hill towing my camper when i was trying to keep momentum by staying in second low but kept changing up to third and ran out of speed and stopped. As mine is a MY14 it doesn't have it but I guess they would argue again that you you the ascent control for this as well.
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Well with litigation issues, hill descent control, tries to make it muppet proof.
If you can overide that, then a muppet can, that leads to a litigation case. "Why was I able to change gears and lose control", this is the down side of U.S style legal issues.
This probably causes the issue in reverse, when you need to lock it in a gear to provide drive.
I'm sure they could come up with a solution, but it is easy to see where the conflicts come from, writing code for all eventualities is a nightmare.
It's easy to criticise, but the permutations are huge.
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