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Probably about as far as an ol' subaru wagon .... and Ive seen good drivers embarrass landcruiser owners with a subie.

i had a subaru brumby before the tj, it ate up fraser island, didnt get bogged once or look like coming close to it. the lil subie's go placesyou wouldnt expect them too. indian head was a laugh, guys in there cruisers and pootrols getting bogged andid just bounce on by
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How low does jeep want to set the bar for an 'off roader' classification just so they can sell a few more with its trail rated 'package'. I call this brand personality abuse. By these standards if you're not driving an offroader these days there must be something wrong with you. Now we are comparing it to the old subaru? Well then yes, if we keep our blinkers on to imagine a world where only patriots and subaru's exist we can say the patriot is in the off roader basket. My mrs barina can go where that patriot's going if i were to modify it with nothing but lift + wheels. Lets declare the barina with its trail rated 'package' a short wheel based off roader. I see forums for the KK KJ XJ GC TJ JK and Commander. Nope, sorry, no patriot forum there on aus jeep OFFROAD.
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It looks like a nice package.
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How low does jeep want to set the bar for an 'off roader' classification just so they can sell a few more with its trail rated 'package'. I call this brand personality abuse. By these standards if you're not driving an offroader these days there must be something wrong with you. Now we are comparing it to the old subaru? Well then yes, if we keep our blinkers on to imagine a world where only patriots and subaru's exist we can say the patriot is in the off roader basket. My mrs barina can go where that patriot's going if i were to modify it with nothing but lift + wheels. Lets declare the barina with its trail rated 'package' a short wheel based off roader. I see forums for the KK KJ XJ GC TJ JK and Commander. Nope, sorry, no patriot forum there on aus jeep OFFROAD.

That's why you would fail at being CEO of Jeep.
With all this climate crap they have to look at ways they will not lose money. Selling a small 4x4 with mild off road capabilities is a good way to keep selling products.
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That's why you would fail at being CEO of Jeep.
With all this climate crap they have to look at ways they will not lose money. Selling a small 4x4 with mild off road capabilities is a good way to keep selling products.
thank you, i wasnt aware that jeep is producing this vehicle to make money. Its marketing lies im having a go at. Its the consumer who owns the products brand personality and jeep are abusing this. everything's so simple when you're 19.
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Love it, I'd buy one for the missus!
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