Need a rear bar with tyre carrier to suit update

[anthonygubbin]

I need a rear bar with tyre carrier to suit the update XJ. Protofab are not well suited to the lines of the update, IMHO so I now need other options. I can not build one myself so that is out. I am happy to get one made in the new year but who makes them?

Regards A

[darksidecustoms]

As in a custom bar? The JCR too expensive?
Otherwise maybe try DBOR?

[anthonygubbin]

As in a custom bar? The JCR too expensive?
Otherwise maybe try DBOR?

JCR? Never heard of that one. DBOR don't do one for an XJ. They mainly stick with TJ's and maybe JK's? I think I tried them before. Probably after a custom bar as it seems that what everyone else has. Just that most people who have them have made their own. That is where I come unstuck. I can't make metal stuff for you know what ;).

Regards A

[anthonygubbin]

Ok so I have found Hanson make them. I can get one but they are in WA. Anyone know much about them. I have emailed the WA stockist but I am not sure if they will respond. I have had trouble in the past with other 4x4 companies not returning emails.
What I need to know is will they fit an update? Also can I keep my Hayman Reece tow bar in place.

http://www.hansonoffroad.com/proddetail.php?prod=JXJRTC-P

Regards A

[layback40]

Ok so I have found Hanson make them. I can get one but they are in WA. Anyone know much about them. I have emailed the WA stockist but I am not sure if they will respond. I have had trouble in the past with other 4x4 companies not returning emails.
What I need to know is will they fit an update? Also can I keep my Hayman Reece tow bar in place.

http://www.hansonoffroad.com/proddetail.php?prod=JXJRTC-P

Regards A

If you look at the pic you will see that the hole for the towbar tongue is part of the frame. I dont think you could have your towbar as well.

[anthonygubbin]

If you look at the pic you will see that the hole for the towbar tongue is part of the frame. I dont think you could have your towbar as well.

I was wondering that. However I thought it may have been for a Hayman Reece recovery hitch like I have at the moment. I can not see those chassis brackets being legal to tow with. I enquired about another rear bar and was told the uni body chassis is not strong enough to support their tyre carrier rear bar. Which suggest that towing with their bar would be even worse. My thinking was aint no way I want to tow 1300kg without the use of a proper tow bar. The other thing was it would mean the tow hitch would be 200mm higher than normal. Just did not make sense to me but you could be right Layback. I have emailed them so hopefully I will hear back or I will have to call them.

Regards A

[BennyWA]

Didn't know they were in WA... looks like it suits the pre update anyway?

[junglejuice]

Just remember if it isn't load rated with a stamped plated it most likely won't be legal to tow with...

[kj69]

i cant even see how its mounted ant? dont worry about the height hayman reese make a drop tow hitch.my rear bar has the receiver in the same place and i have 4" lift .

[anthonygubbin]

Just remember if it isn't load rated with a stamped plated it most likely won't be legal to tow with...

Yerr exactly that is why I am not gonna get one. They are an US import so no way gonna cut for Aust standards. The bloke also emailed me today and said my Hayman Reece won't fit with the Hanson rear bar. So I am back to square one. I have pics of Steve F's which he let me take at Jambo. I think now I am going to have to get someone to engineer me some plans then I will have to take them to my local welding bloke to get the bar made. Either way I doubt I will have a bar for my Tassie trip in Feb to Mar.

Regards A

[carvesdodo]

Heres how the U.S. towbars work ...

Their HaymanReese lookalikes come with different ratings depending on the "class"

.... but as already mentioned ... and despite the U.S. weight classification - they're not likely to have our nanny state, stamp of approval ...

US DOT hitch classes .... http://www.randpcarriages.com/tech/TrailerHitchClasses.htm
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[anthonygubbin]

Thanks Carves, BTW did you get your 8.25 in yet? Wdrs said they had one coming for you also.

Regards A

[carvesdodo]

Damn things turned up before the shed did ...

So they'll be sitting on a pallet for a while yet.


If you're not in a rush .... I might have towbar/wheel carrier available in a few months ...

[anthonygubbin]

Damn things turned up before the shed did ...

So they'll be sitting on a pallet for a while yet.


If you're not in a rush .... I might have towbar/wheel carrier available in a few months ...

Yerr I will certainly consider it.

Regards A

[Wooders]

Anthony, once my XJ is running again I'll snap some pics of how I;ve modified my Protofab rear bumper to both fitt better with the update lines, but to also be compatible with my existing Hayman Reese tow bar.

[Windex]

Do you really need a full rear bar? I like the stock bar but need a tyre carrier so I have been thinking about these for awhile.

http://www.detoursusa.com/images/tailbone_main.jpg
http://www.detoursusa.com/tailbone.php

[XJeepers]

Anthony, once my XJ is running again I'll snap some pics of how I;ve modified my Protofab rear bumper to both fitt better with the update lines, but to also be compatible with my existing Hayman Reese tow bar.

Id be interested as well Dave. Hopefully when I pick mine up I might be able to have a look see up close anyway. Cant wait to pick up all my stuff from you :)

[darksidecustoms]

JCR? Never heard of that one.


Sorrg thought I'd shown you when you were last looking? Don't know about the towbar side of things though.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=J&Screen=PROD&Category_Code=XJB&Product_Code=XJ-R-DX

[grandpa_spec]

that detours bar is awesome, i wonder how much it is sent to oz

[anthonygubbin]

Anthony, once my XJ is running again I'll snap some pics of how I;ve modified my Protofab rear bumper to both fitt better with the update lines, but to also be compatible with my existing Hayman Reese tow bar.

Thabks D that would be awesome.

Regards A

[darksidecustoms]

that detours bar is awesome, i wonder how much it is sent to oz

I think the Detours guy became an AJOR sponsor earlier this year.. Have a search on here, I think he posted some example freight prices

[kj69]

I think the Detours guy became an AJOR sponsor earlier this year.. Have a search on here, I think he posted some example freight prices

no he didnt become a vendor .

[darksidecustoms]

My mistake kj... Found the thread: http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104699

[anthonygubbin]

Yer I think freight will kill it, $600. Something like that really needs an Aust reseller who can get them shipped with other gear to keep the freight down.
Looks lke a modded Proto Fab or the tow bar type will be the options to choose from.

Regards A

[kyphonii]

The update rear end is similar to the Pre other than the returns on the bumper ends.
The bumper pictured below is one I'm working on. The bumper is 6mm thick high tensile Aluminium. I'm working on it being strong enough for a winch. Fitting a wheel carrier could be done, I just don't like carriers. The mounts/bumper don't contact the towbar at this stage so no issue there. I will be tagging to the towbar if I fit a winch but I will be bolting to the existing bar with out modifications to the tow bar.

[xjrob]

Here is one for sale in Australia

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JEEP-CHEROKEE-XJ-Rock-Crawler-Rear-Bumper-Accepts-Tire-Carrier-NEW-/251173091679?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7b15395f

[Jimmyb]

Here is one for sale in Australia

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JEEP-CHEROKEE-XJ-Rock-Crawler-Rear-Bumper-Accepts-Tire-Carrier-NEW-/251173091679?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7b15395f

Welds look pretty average.

[junglejuice]

Welds look pretty average.

But the welds are done by a robot... maybe the robot normally works as a vacuum cleaner or something as they look far from professional....

[XJeepers]

But the welds are done by a robot... maybe the robot normally works as a vacuum cleaner or something as they look far from professional....

Robots got a twitch....

[mud_slut]

But the welds are done by a robot... maybe the robot normally works as a vacuum cleaner or something as they look far from professional....

hahahahhaah :hump:

[double black offroad]

JCR? Never heard of that one. DBOR don't do one for an XJ. They mainly stick with TJ's and maybe JK's? I think I tried them before. Probably after a custom bar as it seems that what everyone else has. Just that most people who have them have made their own. That is where I come unstuck. I can't make metal stuff for you know what ;).

Regards A

Smitti are about to release a new XJ bar check this out! We have a few on order!


http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/149.htm

[Tezza]

What about this TBS bar I recon they have a clean look and you can run without the tyre carrier.
Cheers Tezza

[darksidecustoms]

What about this TBS bar I recon they have a clean look and you can run without the tyre carrier.
Cheers Tezza

Got a link Tez? Not often you see them curved like that - flat ones look terrible IMO.

[darksidecustoms]

Smitti are about to release a new XJ bar check this out! We have a few on order!


http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/149.htm

That ain't half bad. Will you be getting the tow hitch certified for aus?

[junglejuice]

Got a link Tez? Not often you see them curved like that - flat ones look terrible IMO.

I don't think you will find a link, give you a hint I suspect that TBS stands for Tezza's Back Shed.... ;)

[sturz_00]

Have a look at the pre update KAYMAR rear bar and carrier i have 1 on mine and my young blokes UPDATE, both run bushwacker flat flares so no side skirts around to the wheel well, so good for us, however i dont think it would be hard to fab some up if wanting to keep original flares lot eiasier than starting from scratch, you will need to modify the rear door by filing out a small area to clear corner of bar but done properly not noticeable, the tow bar is rated with 14 bolt mounting points. and you can sometimes pick them up for about $400, worth a look!

[Tezza]

I don't think you will find a link, give you a hint I suspect that TBS stands for Tezza's Back Shed.... ;)

I thought you would pick up on that.

[darksidecustoms]

I thought you would pick up on that.

Nice work :-)

[AD007E]

Smitti are about to release a new XJ bar check this out! We have a few on order!


http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/149.htm

What about the matching front bar?

http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/148.htm

[anthonygubbin]

Smitty one look nice. But I want to keep my Aust approved towbar. Using a Smitty I would have to get it engineered I suspect.

Regards A

[murray]

is this the one in WA
Northridge4x4.com (http://www.northridge4x4.com/)
6759 NW Northridge Lane
Bremerton, WA 98312
Phone: (360) 340-0282
Email: sales@northridge4x4.com (sales@northridge4x4.com)

coz thats in washington state USA

[murray]

i have a custom carriers type on mine

[anthonygubbin]

is this the one in WA
Northridge4x4.com (http://www.northridge4x4.com/)
6759 NW Northridge Lane
Bremerton, WA 98312
Phone: (360) 340-0282
Email: sales@northridge4x4.com (sales@northridge4x4.com)

coz thats in washington state USA

Nah the WA mob are importers.

Reagrds A

[junglejuice]

I thought you would pick up on that.

I also recognised the scenery....

[layback40]

Smitti are about to release a new XJ bar check this out! We have a few on order!


http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/149.htm

I like the gerry can holder
How come you didnt think of that when you built yours JJ ? :confused:
:mrgreen::mrgreen::D

[junglejuice]

I like the gerry can holder
How come you didnt think of that when you built yours JJ ? :confused:
:mrgreen::mrgreen::D

I did think of it briefly but I run a 125l fuel tank and tow a camper when I tour that holds 80l so I dismissed it again.
I am going to build a new one at some stage that will hopefully incorporate a new rear bumper so who knows how that one will turn out....