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Wh Grand Cherokee Common Faults And Issues Common WH Grand Cherokee Faults and Issues Database
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When you post in this thread it must be related to a high level area as described below or in the misc section and then describe in detail and/or relate to a known Technical Service Bulliten (TSB). Copy the entinre section and add your comments to the sections. BODY EXTERIOR - INTERIOR - - Cloth seats stain very easy. TSB on this for the dealer to wash for you once. ENGINE - 3.0 CRD - - Swirl motor for the Turbo may make a clattering noise as this is the vaccum pump on the blink. Also delivers very poor performance. - Injectors need to be reprogramed when they arre replaced or they will not talk to the computer. 3.7 - 4.7 - 5.7 - - Is a known HEMI shudder but not sure if this affects the export model. 6.1 - TRANSMISSION - QuadraTrac (QT) or QuadraDrive (QD) - Service 4WD System light will illuminate and chime regularly. TSB to re flash and tighten connectors TRANSFER CASE - SUSPENSION - - Rear spring mount isolators creak/squeak, TSB fix for replacement isolators STEERING - ELECTRICS and ELECTRONICS - - PCM eaten by battery acid. This is of note and has happened to me as an isolated case. The battery was either overcharging or leaked during servicing and hence the PCM is directly under the battery and it ate the aluminium cover and the PCB within. This caused no end of fault codes as well. Also the wiring harness on the left hand side facing forward of the vehicle had to be replaced due to the acid ingress. - Window regulators on the front neede replacing WHEELS and BRAKES - - Brake Rotors need machining front - Minor shudder when braking uphill ACCESSORIES - - If you fit the factory nudge bar you cant fit the factory rated recovery points at the same time. MISC - Lets start populating this. JTO |
Don't know how many times I have had a re-flash but the "service 4wd system" warning comes on every time I take mine off road
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if u fit the factory nudgebar on a car with parktronic, it sends the parktronic crazy cause the nudge bar goes straight over the sensors
3.0LT CRD: trans wiring harness seals leak trans oil on a regular basis.. updated adaptor fixes this problem (we hope) 3.0LT CRD: seal on the inlet of the turbo lossens and causes an oil leak from the induction. fix: keep the hose clamp tight or fit new seal |
Air Bag Light that go off & on again loose connection that 2 dealers 3 visit have failed to find.
no blue wire for electric brakes discont. in WH All WH owners with a QII transmission should check the seal where the electric enter the trans for oil leaking out thru the seal. Jeep know about this leak & have a TBS for it, Northern Jeep even carry extra new type of seal has its a very common problem. I currently seating in the Jeep Dealer waiting to get it fixed so I can go to Melb Jeep Muster Brother inlaws WH CRD Turbo wind between 1500 & 3,000 rpm bonnet out of alignment creaking from rear suspension REAR SEAT FIX creaking in front door rubbers gearbox oil leak |
Cherren is is that the airbag light comes on or is it possible that it's actually all the lights that came on and then go off in the same orders as the self test, with the airbag being the last one? Mine has done that 4 or 5 times for no reason and Jeep replaced the ignition switch yesterday as there has been a few reports of them shorting out.
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BODY EXTERIOR -
- bonnet out of alignment INTERIOR - - Cloth seats stain very easy. TSB on this for the dealer to wash for you once. ENGINE - 3.0 CRD - - Swirl motor for the Turbo may make a clattering noise as this is the vaccum pump on the blink. Also delivers very poor performance. - Injectors need to be reprogramed when they are replaced or they will not talk to the computer. - seal on the inlet of the turbo lossens and causes an oil leak from the induction. fix: keep the hose clamp tight or fit new seal - Turbo wind between 1500 & 3,000 rpm 3.7 - 4.7 - 5.7 - - Is a known HEMI shudder but not sure if this affects the export model. 6.1 - TRANSMISSION - QuadraTrac (QT) or QuadraDrive (QD) - Service 4WD System light will illuminate and chime regularly. TSB to re flash and tighten connectors - gearbox oil leak - trans wiring harness seals leak trans oil on a regular basis.. updated adaptor fixes this problem (we hope) - Couple of reported cases where the transmission has overheated shutting down the car for 15 minutes until temp comes down. This was on the sand in hot weather. TRANSFER CASE - SUSPENSION - - Rear spring mount isolators creak/squeak, TSB fix for replacement isolators STEERING - ELECTRICS and ELECTRONICS - - PCM eaten by battery acid. This is of note and has happened to me as an isolated case. The battery was either overcharging or leaked during servicing and hence the PCM is directly under the battery and it ate the aluminium cover and the PCB within. This caused no end of fault codes as well. Also the wiring harness on the left hand side facing forward of the vehicle had to be replaced due to the acid ingress. - Window regulators on the front needed replacing - Air Bag Light that go off & on again loose connection that 2 dealers 3 visit have failed to find. - no blue wire for electric brakes discont. in WH WHEELS and BRAKES - - Brake Rotors need machining front - Minor shudder when braking uphill - possible TSB for this. ACCESSORIES - - If you fit the factory nudge bar you cant fit the factory rated recovery points at the same time. - if u fit the factory nudgebar on a car with parktronic, it sends the parktronic crazy cause the nudge bar goes straight over the sensors MISC - - creaking in front door rubbers I have added the other info the guys have posted up. Can we please ensure that when you add, you add to the list like I have then the most up to date one is the last one. Cheers, JTO |
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Body - Bonnet out of alignment Engine - 1. I have the unfixable "hemi shudder", IMO, it's transmission related (torque convertor) 2. Intermittently noisy valve train (lifters) Transmission - 1. The shudder 2. Occasional rough 4th gear engagement on light throttle. 3. Leak (fixed) from somewhere? (5.7 runs different box to CRD) Rear differential - Diff whine at 100 klm/h light load, dealer aware, yet to have ok to fix it! Suspension - 1. also have the creak 2. Sway bar bushes on their way out. Electrics 1. WAY too many dud batteries. 2. Dealer fit rear seat DVD failure. 3. Factory GPS on the blink occasionally. 4. ABS cycles when slowing uphill. I heard TSB to fix, dealer denies!!!!!! Brakes - Factory pads suffer "pad buildup" very quickly when used for towing or driven with intent. Cheers guys :) |
I have blown my front diff bearings. Its currently getting rebuilt vehicle is now out of warranty (103,000km) but I have been complaining about the service 4wd light coming on continually. They have found a faulty sensor and after I pushed to find out why the sensor failed and the on going gear noise they fond the problem. ill keep you informed.
How do you guys feel about WH Grands? I just cant imagine taking mine away on a long off road trip without it breaking down |
Nah..... I love the concept, the traction, the way it drives, and most of all the power! BUT, if I was to do another Cape or Outback trip, I'd be straight back into something Japanese......
Isn't it amazing how one can have so much faith in an entire country's motor vehicle industry! |
WH faults I seem to have an ongoing problem with my 2005 WH CRD with oil leaks.
So far. Transmission electrical plug. Air intake box. Transmission oil cooler supply line-recall. Transmission pilot bush. Oil temperature sensor washer not sealing. Diff pinion seal. This in only 56,000ks,dealer assures me that it is not a common problem but I would like to hear if anyone else is having similar problems,particularly with not long to go on warranty. Cheers,Dick. |
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My 2006 WH CRD (with only 30,000kms - I know, gotta get out there more):
- Got the 'Service 4WD system' flashing light once - fixed per TSB - ABS shudders braking uphill, usually when cresting a rise - Fuel consumption as bad as 18.5l/100km in city cycle - Gas struts for bonnet fail to hold bonnet up for more than a minute - ouch! - Rear left suspension creak - fixed under warranty - Seat memory for driver 1 cannot be reset, intermitent problem - Mopar front tow hooks for WH will NOT FIT THE CRD model - the turbo oil radiator plumbing fouls the plate of the towhook. I bought the hooks in U.S. (same part number as Oz WH part), so cannot return them. If anyone has successfully got an angle grinder onto the baseplate of these hooks and fitted them around the turbo radiator plumbing - please let me know! (I'm about to try grinding them down - gotta have recovery points for any serious off road fun). - Otherwise pleasantly surprised with the reliability and lack of problems, great car, just needs a lift and some bash plates - Finners |
Brake Shudder Uphill I noticed a couple of complaints about brake shudder up hill. I found this on: http://www.wkjeeps.com/recalls/wk_recall.htm
2006 - 2007 (WK) Jeep® Grand Cherokee (XK) Jeep® Commander NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles equipped with a model 245 two speed transfer case (sales code DHX). The software programmed into the Electronic Brake Control (EBC) module on about 296,000 of the above vehicles may allow a momentary delay in braking when coasting up a hill during certain conditions. This could increase the vehicle’s stopping distance and cause a crash without warning. Repair The EBC module must be reprogrammed (flashed). Cheers…….. Kenjo |
Sat Nav flakey but never when getting serviced, they MAY replace it next time (52,000kms so far).
Updated SD card with Eastlink Melb on it quoted at $400! Seat memory probs in that it won't remember to go back which for me being 186cm was real handy:( Otherwise big improvement on my previous 1998 laredo but some of those CRD problems posts scare me. |
WH Grand 5.7 Hemi
42000 km so far. Sat nav screen calibration went out and the whole unit was replaced. I have a very slight hemi shudder during light accel, i heard a jet chip fixes this and those odd unusual feeling gear changes.? My rear seats creak where the latches lock to the chrome bars.- i always thought it was the rear susp but if i fold the seats down - no creak. The interior air control doesnt turn off the air to your feet when dialled, this gives me icy feet and legs with aircon on. Front brake pads totally worn out and the disks needed skimming at 40000 km. Slight rear diff whine at 100km and light load. |
BODY EXTERIOR -
- bonnet out of alignment INTERIOR - - Cloth seats stain very easy. TSB on this for the dealer to wash for you once. - Rear seats creak at the latches - Air control doesnt turn air off for feet-always on ENGINE - 3.0 CRD - - Swirl motor for the Turbo may make a clattering noise as this is the vaccum pump on the blink. Also delivers very poor performance. - Injectors need to be reprogramed when they are replaced or they will not talk to the computer. - seal on the inlet of the turbo lossens and causes an oil leak from the induction. fix: keep the hose clamp tight or fit new seal - Turbo wind between 1500 & 3,000 rpm 3.7 - 4.7 - 5.7 - - Is a known HEMI shudder but not sure if this affects the export model. 6.1 - TRANSMISSION - QuadraTrac (QT) or QuadraDrive (QD) - Service 4WD System light will illuminate and chime regularly. TSB to re flash and tighten connectors - gearbox oil leak - trans wiring harness seals leak trans oil on a regular basis.. updated adaptor fixes this problem (we hope) - Couple of reported cases where the transmission has overheated shutting down the car for 15 minutes until temp comes down. This was on the sand in hot weather. TRANSFER CASE - SUSPENSION - - Rear spring mount isolators creak/squeak, TSB fix for replacement isolators STEERING - ELECTRICS and ELECTRONICS - - PCM eaten by battery acid. This is of note and has happened to me as an isolated case. The battery was either overcharging or leaked during servicing and hence the PCM is directly under the battery and it ate the aluminium cover and the PCB within. This caused no end of fault codes as well. Also the wiring harness on the left hand side facing forward of the vehicle had to be replaced due to the acid ingress. - Window regulators on the front needed replacing - Air Bag Light that go off & on again loose connection that 2 dealers 3 visit have failed to find. - no blue wire for electric brakes discont. in WH - gps touch screen calibration failed WHEELS and BRAKES - - Brake Rotors need machining front - Minor shudder when braking uphill - possible TSB for this. - pads and front skim at <40000km ACCESSORIES - - If you fit the factory nudge bar you cant fit the factory rated recovery points at the same time. - if u fit the factory nudgebar on a car with parktronic, it sends the parktronic crazy cause the nudge bar goes straight over the sensors MISC - - creaking in front door rubbers |
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I have to ask, how do you get 1000k's out of a tank. I'm lucky to get 550 from mine. Bought the ZG just over a month ago, and have so far hade to fix the air-con, and now having a problem with the remote. Doesn't help that the guy I bought it from only had 1 remote, but hey. For the weekend she's going to be at the shopping centre :) |
The ZG regularly gets used between Brisbane and Emerald, (950 k's) and still has 70 odd k's on the distance to empty. It's been power/economy chipped, uses premium fuel exclusively, is in excellent condition and is serviced regularly by me. It helps when ya stick to the speed limits an use cruise. .....
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Help - Non Adjustable Suspension WH Is this a common issue with WH models?
My vehicle has just ticked over 30,000Km, it has been behaving in this manner since about 8,000Km, when it had an OME 50mm lift kit installed. Front left wheel is out of alignment and scrubbing the tyre on the outside edge. It wants to keep driving left all the time. Have had it into a wheel alignment specialist who tells me that this is a common problem with the previous WJ model. Says there is an offset bush to fix? I am not knowledgable in wheel alignment technicalities, the settings from the report as below (front only) Caster - left 3deg38' - right 3deg51' Camber - left 0deg50' - right 0deg09' Toe - left 0deg01' - right 0deg02' I understand that there is quite a variation in the numbers, however what it means except that it pulls left is beyond my scope, would certainly apprecaite some advice / feedback - is this a common problem with WH?? A. should this be a warranty issue? B. how best to fix the problem and where can I get parts if that's what's required? |
Hi John,
DarwinDave here again, I've had no problems at all with my 2"OME lift. I had a minor problem early on as I couldn't get the front struts and had to use the original ones for a couple of months. On the way to Darwin I topped them out on the rough road and they rubbed on the body all the way up and back but after the fitting of the Bilstiens and the corresponding wheel alignment, no trouble at all. I've done 38,000 and the original tyres still have probably 5-10 left but they will not see it out. I've had a rear oil seal replaced and the crankshaft sensor gave up the goast one morning in the middle of Samford road in peak traffic, a bit interesting. But after it sat for about 20 mins it started and I was able to get to the dealer to fix it. This is reported as a major fault on the US Jeep Forum site. Cheers DarwinDave |
Hi Dave, I have spoken to the Jeep dealership in Townsville, they will look at it next week while it is there getting the door window modules replaced due to erratic behaviour it has a TSB.
I have had it into various dealerships and they just spray the tracks with silicone, until you complain loud enough then it becomes a warranty repair issue. I am hoping someone on this furum can give me some technical advice as to why it is doing this (pulling left) and what the fix may be? Are there any mechanics "in the house"?? My tyres are starting to get down too, I was hoping to sell them but that's pretty much expired now, I look like having a spare road carcase. all the best, johnv |
Hi John,
Try "http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/" then go to Grand Cherokee and Commander Forum Group then to WK & XK Technical Forum and send a request to Merlin for advice. He is a UK master Jeep technician. There is a lot of very good info on that site. Cheers Dave |
I have had a recent issue with the windscreen wipers occasionally stopping mid screen. It started off they would occasionally slow down mid screen and then they started stopping always at the worst time. I replaced blades etc still no good. Spoke to local Jeep man and he said there is an issue with water ingress to a module under the fuse box covered under warranty. Any way I dropped it off for him to look at and they found the wiper linkages had rubbed through the wiring. It was repaired under warranty, the wiring was rerouted and Jeep Aust was informed. I don't know if this is a one off but I thought everyone should be aware as losing you wipers at night in the rain isn't fun.
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Johnv: I have the OME2" lift on the WH fitted at ARB Mackay and have no wheel alignment issues at all.
I did have a problem on the KJ though after the lift and it turned out to be one of the rear wheels had a different backspace to the others, hence throwing the alignment out. |
JTO, can you add noisy diff to the list, factory warranty issue, new gearset & bearings installed by DC Motors, Rockhampton, their staff have done an excellent job.
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WH CRD oil leak My 2005 WH CRD had leak from sump gasket,fixed by mercedes agent now jeep service agent too,in Newcastle.Now have problem with `Swirl` valve,`limled home` on weekend,repair under warranty.Wondering if many others had problems with 3.0 CRD,to determine whether to keep after warranty expires in March 2010?
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I'm on my 5th battery, all needing replacement due to massive battery case swelling. (it actually looks like it will pop!)
No over-charging issues from the alternator. Anyone else had this problem? |
Did the original battery have this problem also? Was it replaced under warranty? Did you replace it with an OEM (Jeep) battery or use another brand? If so what brand and what are its specs? Do you have a CRD or Petrol, if petrol what engine size? How many Kms on your clock?
Questions, questions, what did you have for breakfast? :p |
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Sorry, knew you'd want more.
2006 WH 5.7 hemi. All batteries have been replaced under warranty with genuine units. 60,000 klm but has been an issue since 20,000klm. It has bben nearly one full year since the last replacement. Vehicle has just come out of warranty, and Jeep says they've ordered another new battery "in an act of good faith". Said new battery is yet to arrive. No pics sorry, just imagine the lower casing very bulging ;) Muesli |
S--t Marlin my imagination went into overdrive then - a pregnant battery?
What answers have Jeep given you, or, is it too difficult for them?? Have you had it to the same Jeep dealer every time, if so try and take it to another dealer and see if they can get a handle on the problem. Other than Jeep, where have you been to with it? Can I suggest a very good Auto Electrician and a Battery Manufacturer? I would want to get to the bottom of the problem - 2 stuffed batteries is too much of a coincidence, 4 is intolerable. There is obviously an intermittent electrical issue that is causing it, if you find the answers via the sources I have suggested, send Jeep the bill and be prepared to stand your ground. You as a customer purchased a vehicle that has a 3 year / 100,000Km warranty and they should have the resources to fault-find or refer it to someone else to deal with it, just replacing the battery is a cop-out! What happens if your electrical problem sets fire to your vehicle and your family are on board? Are you going to be caught up between Jeep denial and an insurance company saying well it's Jeep they knew - and no vehicle? Sorry to sound so aggressive, it's more than a serious issue! Let me know how you get on I am concerned for you. |
Yeah thanks mate, I've had it checked and re-checked, one of my best mates owns a large auto electrician workshop and all the guys have had a look at some stage, with zero fault found. Early in the piece the issue of dead batteries was traced to the roof mounted dvd player, but no reason why they keep swelling up.
To be honest, I don't have the energy to be overly concerned about it, and I don't have a family that could be caught it in if it caught fire. Once the next new battery goes in today, I'll wizz it out, and put some heat reflective tape on the engine side, because I don't believe it's a charging issue, but rather a latent heat problem. I'll let you know how it goes! |
Hi marlin, i too had battery probs with my 05 hemi and the jeep service centre blamed me for leaving the tailgate open too long with the stereo on-which was only for about 15 min. The battery kept going flat to the point it wouldnt start the car and happened 4 times in 2 months. They had tested it and gave the new jeep battery the aok. i got sick of the blame attitude and went to a good battery joint and got the biggest low profile battery stuffed in it with a little cutting and have never had a issue since. The new jeep battery was put on a deep cycle charge in the shop and it boiled over after 10 min so it has joined the recycle pile.
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Thanks mate, thats pretty much my plan too, once this genuine garbage looks pregnent again, out it comes for a good aftermarket one.
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Marlin, but looking at your avatar pic and realising you're in Brisbane, you must be the one that parks in Doggett St Newstead ;) Get yourself an Optima Yellow Top an be done with it (Jeep paying of course ;) ) R, Stu |
No mate, never parked there ;)
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I think Marlin has put the moz on me.
At 50,000 Km my battery has a dead cell, now replaced under warranty at the Ballarat dealership. |
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