driving with your doors off = cops

[BNEJK]

Originally Posted by timglobal

one would have an exceptionally strong case to contest, and likely win, a defect notice for driving in this circumstance.

Would like to know who has won such case in court )

[davidd]

i've checked a couple of places here in perth. the only opinion i can get , regardless of any argument to the contrary, or how the vehicle was designed in the U.S. is that here in au. the vehicle was presented for adr testing basically as a 2 or 4 door convertible and compliance plates were issued on that basis. dizzydi enquired at chrysler and chrysler said the same thing. so on that basis the best way to go is to enquire a your local licensing authority what their ruling is. apparently one state will allow them to be driven with doors off in spite of the initial requirement of doors on for compliance. if you adk your local people for an opinion and you told to leave the doors on, you should not be surprised to get a ticket. but having made the enquiry, you leave them off in full knowledge you may be charged, and it's up to you if you pay the fine or try contesting it.

[Simsy85]

lol even if the dealer says its ok, don't mean jack!

You get a ticket, contest it. Simple! You loose, let us know, if your win, let us know!

[DizzyDi]

Originally Posted by Wooders

Agreed. About the same chance of ARB issuing a letter that their bumpers are ok for recovery purposes

On the topic of letters from ARB Dave, they've been coming in thick & fast ... hint, they are making changes for the better after being made aware of certain "issues"

Timglobal, don't ya know ya not allowda say "one" around here, it'll result in a barrage of castigation from certain quarter

Best thing to do with the doors is build up a substantial folder of the ADR's etc. that can been found in this thread (highlighting the relevant paragraphs) and carry it in the vehicle, relocate mirrors & point the cop in the direction of (a) the stickers all over the headrail and (b) your hinges to demonstrate the doors simply lift off as designed to do.

[reyzor]

Originally Posted by Bogged

Try driving a CJ8 with no windscreen and empty trailer, 3 up, up the F3, then coming back, no doors screen up and 700 in the trailer, at night, playing tag with the semi's as they slow up the hills but fly past you everywhere else!


17 pages and no one has a definitive answer?

just wear those flash ski goggles

[Wooders]

Originally Posted by davidd

i've checked a couple of places here in perth. the only opinion i can get , regardless of any argument to the contrary, or how the vehicle was designed in the U.S. is that here in au. the vehicle was presented for adr testing basically as a 2 or 4 door convertible and compliance plates were issued on that basis........

Apparently one state will allow them to be driven with doors off in spite of the initial requirement of doors on for compliance. if you adk your local people for an opinion and you told to leave the doors on, you should not be surprised to get a ticket. but having made the enquiry, you leave them off in full knowledge you may be charged, and it's up to you if you pay the fine or try contesting it.

I agree that the vehicle was presented for ADR testing with doors and generally that could be the over-riding element. BUT it was also presented with a softtop &/or hardtop so by that logic it would be illegal to remove the hardtop

However it is NOT an inital requirement under the ADR's for the vehicle to have doors (as i undrstand).

Originally Posted by reyzor

just wear those flash ski goggles

Safety goggles worked just fine for the eyes - but bugs to the forehead and mouth just meant extra protein

[reyzor]

Originally Posted by Wooders

Safety goggles worked just fine for the eyes - but bugs to the forehead and mouth just meant extra protein

try this...