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Tequilas all 'round, TW.! I take possession of my new black TJ on Saturday, muchachos, then off to Straddie for a bit of breakin' her in! He He He! Arriva!!! Can only hope Fat Chili's approach to DOT is successful - Keep us informed, please.
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i was on the vic roads site yeaterday and read just that Q.

VSI 20 (vic roads Vehicle Standards Information) Jan 2000 (current)
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Q11: Doors- my four wheel drive has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

A: Vic Roads strongly reccomends against this practice, particularly when used on road, however if seat belts are fitted the vehicle may be used with out doors fitted.

thats a big YES SIREE in Vic. yet another reason to live in this awesome state! viva la mexico!!
so is it legal in vic. ton
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Shhh, we'll get all those bloody banana benders moving down here next!
I moved from down there up to here, ain't going back! Vic - on the move, or is it the place to be, or the Garden State - make up your mind Bracksy. Had lunch with Bracks once, once was enough.

If it's legal there (Vic) then it may help our cause up here, especially under DOTARs.

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Bracks can't make up his mind, he just pays for a panel to consider what his mind should possibly consider. The he pays another panel to study those possible considerations. Then he puts a toll on their decision.
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Default Argument for Defense of Driving Without Doors

I was given a ticket for driving without doors in my 2001 TJ and I have 3 days to file a review. I've drafted an email below that I plan on sending to the sdro in a couple days after improving it through your suggestions.

No need to reply with opinions not supported by factual evidence.

I also plan on collecting supported arguments and evidence for the legality and safe roadworthiness of driving a TJ without doors, which I plan to submit to several engineers in hopes that I can convince an engineer to certify my TJ as roadworthy.
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I received a fine for not having doors, but 2001 Jeep Wrangler TJs were designed to remove the doors just like the roof, etc. I can take off and put on my doors in less than two seconds without the use of tools.

In the owner’s manual (as well as on the vehicle) it says that “The top and doors on this vehicle are designed only for protection against the elements. Do not rely on the top and doors to contain occupants within the vehicle or to protect against injury during an accident. Wear seatbelts at all times.” “Although your vehicle may be equipped with a soft top or optional hard top to give the occupants protection from the weather, these tops do not offer structural protection in the event of an accident and do not change the open-body characteristic of the vehicle.”

Motorbikes do not have doors, nor seatbelts—as designed. I know Jeep Wranglers (although safer than motorbikes even without doors) are not motorbikes—but nor are they standard cars designed to need doors either.

The doors which were designed to be optionally removed do not provide additional protection in a collision because they don’t contain side intrusion beams as are standard with other vehicles. However, the structure of the chassis without the doors was designed to sustain impact on its own without doors and complies with the "Dynamic Side Impact Occupant Protection" ADR due to the height of the seat, not due to protection offered by the doors, as the doors offer nothing more than protection from the elements (weather).

However, unless the side mirrors are relocated via after market brackets they will not comply with other ADRs. I have, however, relocated the side mirrors to the chassi in order to comply with the requirement to have mirrors.

The owner’s manual also references in several other places that the vehicle was designed to be driven with the doors removed:

Page 82: “NOTE: If the doors are to be removed, pull the #4 fuse from the fuse block to prevent dome lamp illumination.”

Page 103: “Outside rear view mirrors are mounted on the doors. If you choose to remove the doors, see your authorized dealer for a replacement cowl-mounted outside mirror.... NOTE: If the doors are removed, the courtesy lights will remain on. To turn these lights off, remove fuse #4 in the fuse panel. Refer to ‘Fuse Panel’ in Section 7 of this manual.”

Page 104: “(Warning) If you remove the doors, store them outside the vehicle. In the event of an accident, a loose door may cause personal injury.”

As described above, unlike other vehicles, which were designed to be driven with doors, the Jeep Wrangler TJ model was intentionally designed to be safely operated with the doors removed...as well as the top—just like motorbikes and other non-standard cars.
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i know in Vic its Ok, you need to find out if its law or not in NSW
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